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Although to be accurate, polyurethane isn’t immune from chemical damage either, although it’s less prone to it.
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
*An Official Foo-Approved guitarist since Sept 2023.
I’m really meaning all the ones where some unfortunate kid buys his first Les Paul Standard or Studio, puts it on a stand and then finds a massive mark - or worse - in the back of the neck.
Gibson seem to be quite happy to change all sorts of stuff on their modern models, but for some reason blindly stick with the two things that cause the most problems for owners in the real world - the nitro finish, and you know what the other one is .
At least Fender use sensible finishes on anything other than the Custom Shop models... unless you want to pay extra for a Mexican one with nitro over the top .
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
The manufacturers should all be well aware that many guitars are nitro finished and they have been for decades, it's not some shocking new development which has taken the stand market by surprise.
Stands are accessories. Supporting products (literally). They serve no purpose in their own right. We buy stands for our guitars. Nobody goes into a guitar shop and says "I'm looking for something to go with my stand".
It would also be better if guitarists were less conservative about changing things when it's an improvement.
No it isn't, but equally it's not too much to ask that guitar makers don't use a finish which is notorious for reacting with everything from stands to case linings to straps to clothing.
And the vast majority of guitar makers don't.
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
You're fishing for pages from the internet, taking them as gospel, mixing up info, usually incorrectly, as if fact. And are happy to dictate info to people on that basis as if you 'know'.
No I'm not going to pick over articles and get into some sort of debate with you. Try opening a can of acrylic and a can of celly (nitro), try mixing and spraying and then come back and tell us all about it. I will say quickly that acrylic is not at all like nitro to use except for being solvent based. Being soluble doesn't mean it doesn't "cure". That's too vague a term. Solvents are easily available just like always. I would suggest you quit telling people what's what on the basis of web searches though and leave things you don't know about to people who do have relevant experience.
Call it bluster, if you want, abusive if you want. Not that it's relevant but for one I've been spraying since about 1992 (prob due a tea break) and for the other the onus is not on me to provide info on this paint vs that, it's on you to not randomly pick info on the basis of web search, mix things up, tell people what's what and spread misinformation that hangs around for years to come.
Yes Fender did in some cases use acrylic over cellulose, apparently because Leo didn't want fading and wanted his logos to look better for longer. But how much of that info is straight from Leo I've not the faintest.
We've been over the word poly many a time on here so not going there again.
Tonally, it probably doesn't make any difference as long as the finish is thin, but nitro does seem to feel nicer. I have a nitro (over basecoat) AVRI Strat from around 2001 and it does feel different from a Mexican Strat I have. I definitely prefer the feel of the AVRI.
The big issue is not necessarily just about how well nitro ages, but how badly poly can age. If you get hold of a well used early 90s PRS, the dings in it will look a lot worse than a nitro finished guitar of the same age.
I know PRS have changed their finish these days and I don't know how the newer PRS V12 finish will stack up over time, but at least you have a fair idea that a nitro finish will look good years down the line.