Pedalbooard looper or separate pedalboard?

lincolnblue

At the moment I have one pedal board which I use for both electric and acoustic. I've been toying with the idea of having a separate acoustic board, but I got thinking whether it would be better/cheaper to have some kind of looper so that I can isolate 'acoustic' pedals when I'm playing electric and vise versa. 

What are the benefits? What looper would be suitable? There are only a couple of pedals I don't use with each so I don't need a full looper like the GigRig

lincolnblue

Any recommendations?

preston61

This one came up at Andertons today

https://www.andertons.co.uk/second-hand/second-hand-bright-onion-pedal-8-switch-looper

lincolnblue

preston61 said:

This one came up at Andertons today

https://www.andertons.co.uk/second-hand/second-hand-bright-onion-pedal-8-switch-looper

Seems a good price - just don't think I have space for it. Really wonder if I just need a smaller looper as I just want to eliminate a few pedals

Snags

Obvious questions would be:

a) how many loops do you need in order to divide the board the way you want, given the desired pedal order?
e.g. can you basically have three groups:  always included; electric only; acoustic only or are they scattered throughout the chain?

b) what are you hoping to gain by introducing a looper and thus bypassing certain pedals?  Reduction in signal path, or ... what?  What will it give you over simply not engaging the pedals that you don't need to use?

lincolnblue

Snags said:

Obvious questions would be:

a) how many loops do you need in order to divide the board the way you want, given the desired pedal order?
e.g. can you basically have three groups:  always included; electric only; acoustic only or are they scattered throughout the chain?

b) what are you hoping to gain by introducing a looper and thus bypassing certain pedals?  Reduction in signal path, or ... what?  What will it give you over simply not engaging the pedals that you don't need to use?

I'm just trying to reduce the number of pedals in the chain. I could probably do with three loops

Snags

Might be worth looking at something like the JoYo as an inexpensive test bed?  Product page here

I've got the PXL Pro 8, and it's agricultural but perfectly functional.

lincolnblue

Thanks. That used Bright onion one looks ace for the money...just would need a bigger board!!

Snags

Yeah, the JoYo is physically smaller at just 4 loops.  Getting the 8 loop one forced me onto a bigger board - I could fit all my pedals on a Pedaltrain Classic Jr, but not the flipping looper

Flanging_Fred

I have a 2 loop Bright Onion looper for sale if it’s of any interest.

http://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/140161/fs-dod-arion-ehx-danelectro-more#latest

lincolnblue

Any suggestions on similar loopers to the Gig rig quartermaster 8?

ICBM

lincolnblue said:

I'm just trying to reduce the number of pedals in the chain.

If the unused ones are true bypass then it won’t make any difference, and if they’re Boss-type it will only affect the level slightly. It’s only if they’re half-arsed mechanical bypass that it will really matter.

You could possibly improve reliability and cure any bypass issues with a Boss LS-2 though. Two independent loops each with its own level control - one loop for acoustic, one for electric, and the ‘common’ ones after it.