Is this acceptable behaviour by a live act?

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  • EricTheWearyEricTheWeary Frets: 7285
    Having been going to gigs for the last 35 years I can confirm that a typical start time for a headline band hitting the stage has always been 9-9.30.
    It is only in recent times where the venue intends to have a club-night event in the venue afterwards that they have made a 10pm or 10.30 curfew for live bands resulting in them coming on earlier.

    If you work as I do and don't finish till 6pm and have to then get ready to go out and go up into London for a gig - you'd often be lucky to be there by 7.30-8pm, so it's quite annoying when they make the doors open at 5pm and first support bands on by 6.30

    You are lucky you never saw Guns and Roses - Axl didn't respect on-stage times for years - often 3 hours late onstage

    And I've just seen that you live just outside Croydon , so until fairly recently transport was still pretty reliable getting home.

    I went to my first ever paid for gig on a birthday so just coming up to 39 years of going to see bands! Not very often these days admittedly. 
    Even large venues with curfews I’ve been stuck on car parks and not got home to 2am. The more I look at this I think the OP is just trolling. 
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  • richhrichh Frets: 318
    I'm not sure if this is a troll post or not?  Most gigs start at around 9pm and finish around 11pm to 11.30pm in my experience.  I've been to local gigs 2 nights so far this week, and have struggled to get up for work the following mornings.  But that's just the way it is with midweek gigs!
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  • FretwiredFretwired Frets: 17340
    edited November 3
    In London 7:50 pm is really early. I was a roadie for a European band for a while and in the week they typically went on stage at about 9:00 pm at the earliest or later unless they were doing two sets (rare but it happened at the weekend).
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  • AlnmouthAlnmouth Frets: 62
    The OP is not a troll.  I do not like to take a chance on being late for work because I stayed out late the night before.  For those that do like to take that risk, maybe you could find another job if you were fired from your current job for poor timekeeping.

    Also, as I pay for a concert ticket, I feel entitled to expect a level of service in return.
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  • digitalscreamdigitalscream Frets: 12193
    edited November 3
    Alnmouth said:
    The OP is not a troll.  I do not like to take a chance on being late for work because I stayed out late the night before.  For those that do like to take that risk, maybe you could find another job if you were fired from your current job for poor timekeeping.

    Also, as I pay for a concert ticket, I feel entitled to expect a level of service in return.
    I trust none of your gigs have ever been a bit late, then?

    I agree totally, anyway. It's really inconsiderate of bands and promoters not to organise their tour schedule and running times around your sleep schedule.
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  • Yeah...um...troll confirmed  :D 

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  • Strat54Strat54 Frets: 964
    This thread keep me smiling. Maybe the OP should write a letter of complaint to UJR, he lives in Powys I think or better still if he hasn't provided the level of service you would expect then ask for a partial refund..... 
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  • Paul7926Paul7926 Frets: 67
    edited November 3
    I don't get the risk element of not getting up in the morning. There are things called alarm clocks that will help you there. If you are worried about not getting up after a couple of hours sleep then just don't go to bed. I've done it many times. The human body is quite resilient and missing sleep for one day doesn't do it any damage.
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  • AlnmouthAlnmouth Frets: 62
    Paul7926 said:
    The human body is quite resilient and missing sleep for one day doesn't do it any damage.
    That is not true at all.   Missing sleep can cause early death.  Also, I do not appreciate being called a troll.  Maybe this forum does not need my continued presence.
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  • digitalscreamdigitalscream Frets: 12193
    Alnmouth said:
    Paul7926 said:
    The human body is quite resilient and missing sleep for one day doesn't do it any damage.
    That is not true at all.   Missing sleep can cause early death.  Also, I do not appreciate being called a troll.  Maybe this forum does not need my continued presence.
    With that attitude, probably not.

    Then again, it's been pretty entertaining thus far this morning...
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  • dindudedindude Frets: 5543
    OP sounds fun, I’d go to a gig with him.
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  • octatonicoctatonic Frets: 18865
    Glad I didn't get involved in this one.

    What a dick!
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  • vizviz Frets: 5024
    edited November 4
    From my experience rock bands are late much more often than on time, in contrast with classical concerts which start pretty much on the dot. I sympathise with what you’re saying and in my bands we have always tried very hard to start on the advertised time. And the professional bands and shows I’ve been in have been sticklers for timeliness. Having said that, I make it almost a rule to try never to schedule a start before 21:00. That seems to be the time when audiences are in the best mood for it. 
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  • HeartfeltdawnHeartfeltdawn Frets: 11641
    Alnmouth said:
    Paul7926 said:
    The human body is quite resilient and missing sleep for one day doesn't do it any damage.
    That is not true at all.   Missing sleep can cause early death.  Also, I do not appreciate being called a troll.  Maybe this forum does not need my continued presence.

    You're not a troll. You are however an individual so anally retentive that it'd take seven Customs officials armed with the loader from Aliens to carry out a cavity search properly on you. 
    Clarity over quantity.  
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  • lonestarlonestar Frets: 2019
    One has to question who is more sad... the fact that @alnmouth is a bored teenager posting a ridiculous (though amusing thread) or that we’re all commenting on it.

    Well, in for a penny.. in for a pound. :)
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  • dindude said:
    OP sounds fun, I’d go to a gig with him.
    Festival. Share a two man tent.

    Ffs keep your side clean though, or you'll end up in court! 

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  • lonestarlonestar Frets: 2019
    dindude said:
    OP sounds fun, I’d go to a gig with him.
    Festival. Share a two man tent.

    Ffs keep your side clean though, or you'll end up in court! 
    And start on time... or he’ll start a thread about it!
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  • bingefellerbingefeller Frets: 5465
    lonestar said:
    We regularly go the SSE in Belfast for gigs. Sometimes they’re bang on 9pm, other times it’s 9.15. No big deal. 

    We also have a 35/40 min drive after the gig is over around 10.30/45 and that’s assuming we can get out of the traffic jams promptly. So, that gets us home between 11.30 and 12 (give or take). AND that includes a school night. 

    As well as getting up at 5am or 5.30am you can be guaranteed one of our 3 kids will waken us during the night. 

    Soooo.... does 15/20/25/30 mins bother me? Not in the slightest. But that’s me. Aside from a band carrying on backstage there are other problems that can lead to a band going on late. 
    You gonna rock out to Little Mix next year?  They're playing a Sunday and on a Monday so I'll be giving it a miss.  
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  • lonestarlonestar Frets: 2019
    lonestar said:
    We regularly go the SSE in Belfast for gigs. Sometimes they’re bang on 9pm, other times it’s 9.15. No big deal. 

    We also have a 35/40 min drive after the gig is over around 10.30/45 and that’s assuming we can get out of the traffic jams promptly. So, that gets us home between 11.30 and 12 (give or take). AND that includes a school night. 

    As well as getting up at 5am or 5.30am you can be guaranteed one of our 3 kids will waken us during the night. 

    Soooo.... does 15/20/25/30 mins bother me? Not in the slightest. But that’s me. Aside from a band carrying on backstage there are other problems that can lead to a band going on late. 
    You gonna rock out to Little Mix next year?  They're playing a Sunday and on a Monday so I'll be giving it a miss.  
    Oh hell yes! Although Sunday night is the prayer meeting and Monday night is AA... don’t worry, I’m sure I’ll get it sorted :)
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  • Jimbro66Jimbro66 Frets: 850
    The OP would have appreciated an Isley Brothers gig I went to twenty years or more ago. They were on stage something like 7.00pm and had only done maybe 5 or 6 songs when the drummer fell backwards off the raised podium. Curtain down and gig over. We were all down the pub before 8.15.

    If only they were all like that, eh? ;) 
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  • TheMarlinTheMarlin Frets: 1428
    Someone give OP a nappy change. Put him to bed before 7pm. 
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  • TeyeplayerTeyeplayer Frets: 722
    This is the most ludicrous opening post I’ve read in a while, think I need to go for a lie down. ;)
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  • WazmeisterWazmeister Frets: 4029
    Alnmouth said:
    The OP is not a troll.  I do not like to take a chance on being late for work because I stayed out late the night before.  For those that do like to take that risk, maybe you could find another job if you were fired from your current job for poor timekeeping.

    Also, as I pay for a concert ticket, I feel entitled to expect a level of service in return.
    My word, the snowflake generation...
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  • wizbit81wizbit81 Frets: 124
    The OP aside, I think for me there is a point here. 
    Obviously 7:50 is fine, disregarding that I do think it's unfortunate that often bands don't come on until 10pm. If you stay till the end it's midnight, then you need to get home on top of that. If you've gone to Manchester from Leeds, which I do often, then it's a good hour and a half till I'm in bed. I don't worry about being sacked because of course I'll be up in the morning, but my job is one where I can't be knackered the day after. I have to make serious decisions with repercussions, and I can't do that on 5 hours sleep. This varies from person to person, I know plenty of people who can and do function on 5-6 hours, but personally I can't do it, and professionally I won't put myself in that position. So, yes I often have to leave gigs early, in fact I can't remember the last gig I stayed for the very last tune of. However it's up to the band and the venue, and if I don't like it I will just vote with my feet and not go. Ultimately, it's an annoyance and disappointing if I have to miss the band, but that's part of my career choice. 
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  • stickyfiddlestickyfiddle Frets: 9571
    Alnmouth said:
    The OP is not a troll.  I do not like to take a chance on being late for work because I stayed out late the night before.  For those that do like to take that risk, maybe you could find another job if you were fired from your current job for poor timekeeping.

    Also, as I pay for a concert ticket, I feel entitled to expect a level of service in return.
    My word, the snowflake generation...
    I dont believe OP is a millennial (assuming that’s who you mean by snowflake!). Surely no one under 50 would care for such a live act?
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  • richardhomerrichardhomer Frets: 19106
    I went to see John Martyn in the mid 80s. The support act finished about 8.30pm. Shortly before 10.00pm, a barely able to stand John Martyn came on stage for a very short set.

    I’d seen him a few times before and was used to his performances being ‘variable’, depending on how pissed/stoned he was - but this was just unacceptable.

    It didn’t stop me going to see he every time he played Manchester subsequently right up until his last tour. Poor form when a hero lets you down though....
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  • dariusdarius Frets: 40
    fandango said:
    darius said:
    Imagine you are the band. 
    What time are you going to start your set?
    Will there be anyone there?
    What’s the first song?
    And where’s the bass player gone?
    Goddamn it bass player! The OP is in the audience. He's gonna be soooo pissed.
    How is anyone going to enjoy our set if we don't start at the advertised time +/-10minutes. It's the main reason people come to see live music.

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  • thecolourboxthecolourbox Frets: 3317
    I'm not sure the possibility of just not going to gigs if they cause such an issue has been suggested enough. If you were going for kidney dialysis or whatever and the timing was causing a problem then yeah fair enough. There are loads of gigs and jam sessions and whatever that I'd love to go to but I don't because of timing, and practicability. Tough tits, as they say

    And I'm a millennial

    Water, come drown me, I'm done

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  • Strat54Strat54 Frets: 964
    Oh well, sadly the OP has requested to leave the group. I think we offered them no validation.....

    http://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/143308/please-end-my-membership#latest

    Thanks for the entertainment.
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