Sun holiday in January ? Egypt ?

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  • SnapSnap Frets: 2500
    edited January 7

    Aqaba could be good, also consider the place next door, Eilat, which is over the border in Israel. It will be hot, and from there you could (I have done it) Petra, in 2-3 hours via an organised tour. Petra is superb, one of few places that IMO exceed the hype.

    Eilat is directly next to Aqaba, at the tip of the red sea. Nice beaches, nice resort style hotels if that is what you are after. The town is OK, quote sterile, but clean, safe, and essentially a purpose built tourist spot. Being Israeli, its very relaxed and friendly.

    I've been to both TLV and Aqaba, and they are very similar really. Given a choice, I'd opt for Israel over Jordan, more relaxed, though Jordanians are lovely people, very friendly and chilled out. Interesting country.

    From Eilat, you can take a flight to Tel Aviv, or Jerusalem, both ace places. About 40 minutes on a small prop plane. Tel Aviv itself is a brilliant place for a holiday. I've been there in December and its been high 20s, warm sea etc. You could do a two stop holiday - fly to Tel Aviv, 5 hours from London, then onto Eilat, and back. Take in a load of sights and do some beach slobbing and if you fancy it, some superb diving too.

    Canaries - hmm, a real gamble on the weather tbh at that time of the year. And they are a bit crap really.

    Turkey - Dalaman/Antalya area may be warm, but likely not, and probably wet.



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  • Emp_FabEmp_Fab Frets: 14075
    edited January 7
    octatonic said:
    Emp_Fab said:
    You no speak to me now ?

    Well, after some investigation of my own, it turns out the issue relates to the RR Trent 1000 engine.  The majority of 787's are fitted with the General Electric GEnx-1B which don't have these issues.  Even if I did fly on a Trent engined 787, the risk of both engines failing on the same flight are microscopic.
    Weren't you supposed to be a pilot by now?
    Yeah...  The bottom line was it was far too risky a gamble.  My lust for my own dreams would have adversely affected my family.  Had I been a single man, I'd have probably gone for it and risked everything, but I can't.  I haven't even been up gliding for a while either.


    Oh.... you were taking the piss ?

    @snap Thanks for the suggestions.  I won't support Israel by holidaying there though - I won't even buy their produce here.  I'll look into the other ideas though.
    Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine.
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  • DominicDominic Frets: 4190
    Your loss ..........never mind, you can take Corbin and go to somewhere else instead .Why not just make a donation to Hamas to properly cement your ant-Israel bias or better still book a week in Gaza City or Khan Younis........see how much they will love you and how safe and welcome you will feel .
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    edited January 7
    Emp_Fab said:
    octatonic said:
    Emp_Fab said:
    You no speak to me now ?

    Well, after some investigation of my own, it turns out the issue relates to the RR Trent 1000 engine.  The majority of 787's are fitted with the General Electric GEnx-1B which don't have these issues.  Even if I did fly on a Trent engined 787, the risk of both engines failing on the same flight are microscopic.
    Weren't you supposed to be a pilot by now?
    Yeah...  The bottom line was it was far too risky a gamble.  My lust for my own dreams would have adversely affected my family.  Had I been a single man, I'd have probably gone for it and risked everything, but I can't.  I haven't even been up gliding for a while either.


    Oh.... you were taking the piss ?

    Not exactly, or at least I wasn't trying to be mean about it.
    99.9% of the things I say don't have malice in them.
    You cunt!

    But I wasn't up to date with the flight plan stuff (pun intended).
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  • FosterFoster Frets: 925
    Dominic said:
    Your loss ..........never mind, you can take Corbin and go to somewhere else instead .Why not just make a donation to Hamas to properly cement your ant-Israel bias or better still book a week in Gaza City or Khan Younis........see how much they will love you and how safe and welcome you will feel .
    Wow, where did that outrage come from??

    You are right though, I wouldn't feel at all safe holidaying in Gaza City. Then again I wouldn't feel safe holidaying in Florida if Israel were heel bent on wiping it off the face of the planet...
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  • Emp_FabEmp_Fab Frets: 14075
    Dominic said:
    Your loss ..........never mind, you can take Corbin and go to somewhere else instead .Why not just make a donation to Hamas <snip>
    You know, that's not a bad idea!  I've always supported the Palestinians and their fight against the brutal Israeli imperialists.

    I used to help the Friends of Palestine many many years ago.  If you hadn't suggested it, it wouldn't have occurred to me!
    Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine.
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  • builttospillbuilttospill Frets: 301
    Emp_Fab said:
    I've been looking at Mexico again...  guaranteed weather, pretty much.  About twice as expensive as the Canaries but the flight man....  11h.  ...and 11h back again.  That's 22h in a metal tube for a week away - even if it is a posh 787 metal tube.
    Mexico/Yucatan peninsula weather superb all year round, there's been a lot of bad press about Cancun and Playa. Playa Del Carmen is roughly an hour south of cancun, brilliant place and fairly safe. We went in May and so it was baking hot, I've never sweated so much in my life. Plenty to do, the Coba ruins are worth a visit also the Xcaret Eco park is fantastic. Only downside is the 10:50 minute flight just too long for me.     
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  • Emp_FabEmp_Fab Frets: 14075
    We've done the Riviera Maya a few times now and Xcaret is great.  Did you go to the show in the evening in the big arena ?  Fabulous !  We did Cozumel too one year but moved after a week to the Occidental next to Xcaret as it was too quiet where we were.  The trip to Chichen-Itza was interesting but it took forever to get there and was unbearably hot.

    They're taking over 11h now to get there too...  fuck that.  Maybe if we were going for a month !
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  • SnapSnap Frets: 2500
    Emp_Fab said:
     
    @snap Thanks for the suggestions.  I won't support Israel by holidaying there though - I won't even buy their produce here.  I'll look into the other ideas though.

    My views on Israel and the conflict changed a lot once I'd spent time there. Everyone I met simply wanted to live in peace, regardless of race. Their view was that they are surrounded by countries who want to eliminate them from the region. Something like a hundred or so rockets a day get fired into Israel from Palestinian regions every day. 

    However, when I said well why no stop rubbing salt in by having settlements, they were less forthcoming. We drove from TLV to Jerusalem. Along some stretches of the road there were quite high wire fences and military checkpoints, where we were checked out. These were new. Why's that, I asked. There had been several instances of cars attacked with rockets and guns, was the answer. Very sad, and ultimately pointless.

    From the outside, it can appear very black and white. When you are there, on the ground, and not just in Israel, but in neighbouring Arab states, and you talk to people, you do find your western media informed perceptions are not quite on the money.

    You could find a political reason not to visit any middle eastern state. When I was working over there, the only country where I didn't feel that someone was trying to shaft me at every stage of the way was in Israel.



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  • builttospillbuilttospill Frets: 301
    Emp_Fab said:
    We've done the Riviera Maya a few times now and Xcaret is great.  Did you go to the show in the evening in the big arena ?  Fabulous !  We did Cozumel too one year but moved after a week to the Occidental next to Xcaret as it was too quiet where we were.  The trip to Chichen-Itza was interesting but it took forever to get there and was unbearably hot.

    They're taking over 11h now to get there too...  fuck that.  Maybe if we were going for a month !
    Ha Ha! Yes we did that evening arena show at Xcaret it was brilliant wasn’t it? entertaining stuff, loved the mariachi singers were incredible, highlight of holiday for me was swimming in a cenote in coba with bats flying above my head awesome stuff, but that bloody flight.
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  • Emp_FabEmp_Fab Frets: 14075
    I remember the first time I did long-haul.  I was losing the plot towards the end of the flight.  I was so desperate to get out of the metal tube I was pacing up and down the aisle and looking at the doors.  That was 10h30.  How on earth anyone can cope with today's longest flights of 17h plus I don't know.  The current longest non-stop is Newark to Singapore - approx 18h40.

    EIGHTEEN HOURS !!!  I'd need to be sedated !!
    Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine.
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  • stickyfiddlestickyfiddle Frets: 10183
    Emp_Fab said:
    I remember the first time I did long-haul.  I was losing the plot towards the end of the flight.  I was so desperate to get out of the metal tube I was pacing up and down the aisle and looking at the doors.  That was 10h30.  How on earth anyone can cope with today's longest flights of 17h plus I don't know.  The current longest non-stop is Newark to Singapore - approx 18h40.

    EIGHTEEN HOURS !!!  I'd need to be sedated !!
    I’d need to be in first class...!

    the longest I’ve done was 14.5 hrs, Abu Dhabi to JFK. That was in first on an A380 (with miles, not money!!!) and completely awesome. Im a confident happy flier but would seriously dislike the same flight in eccnomy.

    I think the longest economy flight I’ve done was probably Perth from AUH, that’s about 10 hours. 
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  • octatonicoctatonic Frets: 19927
    Emp_Fab said:
    I remember the first time I did long-haul.  I was losing the plot towards the end of the flight.  I was so desperate to get out of the metal tube I was pacing up and down the aisle and looking at the doors.  That was 10h30.  How on earth anyone can cope with today's longest flights of 17h plus I don't know.  The current longest non-stop is Newark to Singapore - approx 18h40.

    EIGHTEEN HOURS !!!  I'd need to be sedated !!
    I’d need to be in first class...!

    the longest I’ve done was 14.5 hrs, Abu Dhabi to JFK. That was in first on an A380 (with miles, not money!!!) and completely awesome. Im a confident happy flier but would seriously dislike the same flight in eccnomy.

    I think the longest economy flight I’ve done was probably Perth from AUH, that’s about 10 hours. 
    I've done London to Syd/Melb at least a dozen times, which means a 2 hour layover in either Abu D/Singapore/Hong Kong/Bangkok.
    It is brutal, especially in economy.
    It is worse when you do the short leg first because you get off the first plane and still have another 12-13 hours to go.

    I'll only do 12 hour+ flights in Business Class now- 47 year old me simply can't do it any other way.
    My preference is to do it in two hops, but that eats into holiday time.

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  • sinbaadisinbaadi Frets: 840
    Just bite the bullet with the flight and go to South East Asia.  Southern Vietnam is great at this time of year.  
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  • octatonicoctatonic Frets: 19927
    sinbaadi said:
    Just bite the bullet with the flight and go to South East Asia.  Southern Vietnam is great at this time of year.  
    It is hot as fuck at the moment.
    34 in HCM, about the same as here in Singapore but the humidity is intense.
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  • Emp_FabEmp_Fab Frets: 14075
    Right, after almost booking Lanzarote then realising the weather forecast is crap, we started looking at Cuba and Mexico again and almost booked, but the thought of that flight stopped us.  So - it's going to be Egypt.  I'll take my chances.  The prices are just too good for what you get, and it's only 5h away and the weather is good.
    Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine.
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  • SnapSnap Frets: 2500
    Excellent, look forward to hearing about it. I bet you will have a great time. Envious, I'd like to be on a beach in the sun, even just for an afternoon would do. Somehow, a trip to Cleethorpes just doesn't cut it...…. (err ever tbh)
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  • stickyfiddlestickyfiddle Frets: 10183
    You'll love it :)
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  • Emp_FabEmp_Fab Frets: 14075
    Hmmm.  I've just read about the attacks in Hurghada last year and the year before, with tourists killed or injured by I.S. sympathisers.

    I think that might put us on edge a little.  It looks fabulous but I don't want to be thinking "has this bloke got other intentions?" every time a trinket seller approaches.
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  • AvalonAndyAvalonAndy Frets: 267
    Malta?
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  • boogiemanboogieman Frets: 5413
    Emp_Fab said:
    Hmmm.  I've just read about the attacks in Hurghada last year and the year before, with tourists killed or injured by I.S. sympathisers.

    And presumably you also saw about the recent bomb  attack on Vietnamese tourists in Cairo? Three dead, several injured. We were planning to go this year too, but that latest attack has put us right off. 

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  • DominicDominic Frets: 4190
    Emp_Fab said:
    Hmmm.  I've just read about the attacks in Hurghada last year and the year before, with tourists killed or injured by I.S. sympathisers.

    I think that might put us on edge a little.  It looks fabulous but I don't want to be thinking "has this bloke got other intentions?" every time a trinket seller approaches.
    But they're your mates .........just tell them what a great friend of Gaza you are and how you are happy to send money that ends up in the hands of Hamas ...so whats's to worry about ?
     Although Egypt is just as harsh with Gaza as Israel so I'm surprised you go there .

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  • SnapSnap Frets: 2500
    Emp_Fab said:
    Hmmm.  I've just read about the attacks in Hurghada last year and the year before, with tourists killed or injured by I.S. sympathisers.

    I think that might put us on edge a little.  It looks fabulous but I don't want to be thinking "has this bloke got other intentions?" every time a trinket seller approaches.


    Its the Middle East, what do you expect?! Whole area, and Sinai in particular, is full of nutjobs. Chances are you will be fine, but it wouldn't be top of my list. I'd sooner take my chances with the weather in the Canaries.

    You will probably find that everything is dead cheap, but there might be a bit of hassle to try and get you to come in and spend in every restaurant/café/bar.


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  • stickyfiddlestickyfiddle Frets: 10183
    I wouldn’t go to Hurghada, but that’s because 1) beaches are dull and 2) the rest of Egypt is too important to miss.

    I don’t see the point worrying about terrorism - it’s very unlikely to be a problem and they just want to make you miss out on some of the great things the world has to offer. 

    I do worry about muggers though - they’ll fuck your day up and make you grumpy about the rest of your holiday
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  • Emp_FabEmp_Fab Frets: 14075
    I'm not after a cultured holiday - just sun, comfort and a swim.  We wouldn't leave the hotel complex, so getting shit off persistent shopkeepers isn't likely.  Getting shot by persistent maniacs is more likely.

    The other major problem I've looked at is the frequency which the words "Egypt" and "Food poisoning" appear together.  We both got ill in Cape Verde last year so we're in no hurry to suffer the arse-gravy fountain again.

    Buffet-all-inclusives are always going to be riskier than a-la-carte, but some countries have a reputation for getting it wrong and Egypt is one of them.

    So, now I'm looking back at Cuba, Mexico, Abu Dhabi and, possibly Florida.
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  • stickyfiddlestickyfiddle Frets: 10183
    Abu Dhabi is lovely if you want beaches and don't mind 7 or 8 hours on a plane. Solid mid-20s most afternoons at the mo. 

    You'd be extremely unlikely to get food poisoning or shot and can ride a camel and even meet me!! :D :D 
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  • SnapSnap Frets: 2500

    Muscat? Bit more to see than other places round there, bit more westernised too, ish, with the Portuguese link.

    Florida - pick your spot carefully to make sure you get the best weather. Miami!

    Cuba, Mexico I'd have in favour of all of the above.

    However, if you are after an all inclusive, the Arab emirates will be fine. As long as you make sure your booze is included, otherwise your eyes will water like hell!!

    Of course, just remember by visiting the emirates, you are endorsing & supporting oppressive regimes that bang people up for little reason, without consular support, and suppress free speech, human rights, you name it really.

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  • Emp_FabEmp_Fab Frets: 14075
    Right then, fuck that.  Sorry Sticky, I'm not going to get the er... sticky experience... !  I can't support oppressive regimes that bang people up for little reason - so I'll probably end up going to Cuba or Mexico where they.... er......
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  • Emp_FabEmp_Fab Frets: 14075
    Isn't Abu Dhabi just a few beaches surrounded by skyscrapers ?  Admittedly I haven't done any research beyond looking at a handful of photos.
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