the police must have been so bored in the 40s with so little crime ....

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  • rolls1392rolls1392 Frets: 193
    Cyber crime was still in its infancy then.
    Also historical sex offences were just starting up.
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  • OctafishOctafish Frets: 1559
    rolls1392 said:
    Cyber crime was still in its infancy then.
    Also historical sex offences were just starting up.
    The Police were too busy turning a blind eye to them!
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  • thecolourboxthecolourbox Frets: 3785
    In fairness Sting wasn't even born until 1951 so I'm not surprised he wasn't very active in the 1940s
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  • LuttiSLuttiS Frets: 1484
    Not much else going on in 1944 iirc..
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  • jellyrolljellyroll Frets: 2297
    Signed by the Chief Constable too. Unbelievable. 
    Mind you, this was Luton pre-M1 so pretty much the edge of the world...
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  • HippoPeteHippoPete Frets: 53
    Nowadays, the letter is more like to read "I'm sorry your Mother was robbed at knifepoint three weeks ago, please ensure that you call 101 should this happen again"
    They don't want your name, they just want your number.
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  • MattBansheeMattBanshee Frets: 905
    Wartime; they were very very hot on any deviation from the norm, as the police were constantly on the lookout for Fritz. Did you know it was also a crime, during wartime, to not lock and immobilise any parked car?
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  • EricTheWearyEricTheWeary Frets: 7736
    I had an old Jamaican chap on my caseload ( for drink driving I think) and I distinctly remember on his record that he went to prison in the sixties in Jamaica for an offence of Theft of a Pound.  IIRC they still have capital punishment there so just as well it wasn't a fiver. 

    I think the only odd offence that used to come up with surprising regularity on people's records when I was preparing reports for court was Drunk in Charge of a Child. One of those offences that seems to exist to give the police the right to arrest you when they couldn't think of anything better. 


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  • robgilmorobgilmo Frets: 1817
    Wartime; they were very very hot on any deviation from the norm, as the police were constantly on the lookout for Fritz. Did you know it was also a crime, during wartime, to not lock and immobilise any parked car?
    It was, also, it was a crime to open a pint of milk without first holding it up in the air and proclaiming ''Aye, be that thy milk there that be, kwooor me old beauty''.
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  • deanodeano Frets: 613
    I had an old Jamaican chap on my caseload ( for drink driving I think) and I distinctly remember on his record that he went to prison in the sixties in Jamaica for an offence of Theft of a Pound.  IIRC they still have capital punishment there so just as well it wasn't a fiver. 

    I think the only odd offence that used to come up with surprising regularity on people's records when I was preparing reports for court was Drunk in Charge of a Child. One of those offences that seems to exist to give the police the right to arrest you when they couldn't think of anything better. 


    In King Henry VIII's time, theft worth more than one shilling was a capital offence and people were hanged for it. They hung them by standing them on the back of a cart, putting a noose around their necks and driving the cart away. They died by strangulation. Felons with friends or family in the crowd would have their legs pulled, thus breaking their necks and giving them a quicker death.

    What I like to call the Good Old Days!
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  • robgilmorobgilmo Frets: 1817
    Drunk in Charge of a Child. One of those offences that seems to exist to give the police the right to arrest you when they couldn't think of anything better. 


    Thats pretty much every parent that ever lived!
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  • EricTheWearyEricTheWeary Frets: 7736
    robgilmo said:
    Drunk in Charge of a Child. One of those offences that seems to exist to give the police the right to arrest you when they couldn't think of anything better. 


    Thats pretty much every parent that ever lived!
    I think it has to be a child under 7 in a public place ( for example - a pub! ) but it's still a fairly large potential number of people. 
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  • robgilmorobgilmo Frets: 1817
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    robgilmo said:
    Drunk in Charge of a Child. One of those offences that seems to exist to give the police the right to arrest you when they couldn't think of anything better. 


    Thats pretty much every parent that ever lived!
    I think it has to be a child under 7 in a public place ( for example - a pub! ) but it's still a fairly large potential number of people. 
    I suppose the definition of ''drunk'' isnt a given? I dont know what the legal limit to drive is these days but I am sure its nowhere near ''drunk''. Ive had my two in a pub for lunch, Ive had a pint or two, no way could I have driven but I didn't feel too drunk to look after the kids, I was still able for instance to accurately administer severe beatings to the pair of them for not holding their forks properly.
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  • EricTheWearyEricTheWeary Frets: 7736
    robgilmo said:
    robgilmo said:
    Drunk in Charge of a Child. One of those offences that seems to exist to give the police the right to arrest you when they couldn't think of anything better. 


    Thats pretty much every parent that ever lived!
    I think it has to be a child under 7 in a public place ( for example - a pub! ) but it's still a fairly large potential number of people. 
    I suppose the definition of ''drunk'' isnt a given? I dont know what the legal limit to drive is these days but I am sure its nowhere near ''drunk''. Ive had my two in a pub for lunch, Ive had a pint or two, no way could I have driven but I didn't feel too drunk to look after the kids, I was still able for instance to accurately administer severe beatings to the pair of them for not holding their forks properly.
    I don't know. I don't think I ever dealt with it in court, it appeared on the previous convictions of people who had a lot of previous convictions hence my feeling it was the thing the police had managed to get to stick when nothing else would. There are plenty of powers to remove children who are at risk so it isn't necessary for that. 
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  • FretwiredFretwired Frets: 20142
    I got smacked round the head by our local PC for riding on the pavement in 1965.

    I've lived in my current house for over 25 years. Crime was very low .... not the case any more. There have been 12 burglaries a couple of streets away in the last few weeks. Pretty brazen as well .. the police response has been patchy.
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  • scrumhalfscrumhalf Frets: 5357
    Well, that was back in the day when we had a police force. Now it's a service.
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  • robgilmorobgilmo Frets: 1817
    Fretwired said:
    I got smacked round the head by our local PC for riding on the pavement in 1965.

    I've lived in my current house for over 25 years. Crime was very low .... not the case any more. There have been 12 burglaries a couple of streets away in the last few weeks. Pretty brazen as well .. the police response has been patchy.
    Was it with his truncheon? People were more tolerant back then of such things.
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  • SassafrasSassafras Frets: 14334
    To be fair, they had just murdered someone and had to flee the scene as fast as possible.
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  • FretwiredFretwired Frets: 20142
    robgilmo said:
    Fretwired said:
    I got smacked round the head by our local PC for riding on the pavement in 1965.

    I've lived in my current house for over 25 years. Crime was very low .... not the case any more. There have been 12 burglaries a couple of streets away in the last few weeks. Pretty brazen as well .. the police response has been patchy.
    Was it with his truncheon? People were more tolerant back then of such things.
    Back of his hand. He was a big Irishman by the name of PC Shelford. The locals loved him as he was an effective copper if you get my meaning.
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  • boogiemanboogieman Frets: 5622
    deano said:
    In King Henry VIII's time, theft worth more than one shilling was a capital offence and people were hanged for it. They hung them by standing them on the back of a cart, putting a noose around their necks and driving the cart away. They died by strangulation. Felons with friends or family in the crowd would have their legs pulled, thus breaking their necks and giving them a quicker death.

    What I like to call the Good Old Days!
    There were two types of hanging. The one you described is the Short Drop. The Long Drop was done on a proper scaffold and the fall should break the victim’s neck for a quick death, if the executioner was good at his job. A Short Drop death must’ve been a brutal way to go. 
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  • CHRISB50CHRISB50 Frets: 2036
    boogieman said:
    deano said:
    In King Henry VIII's time, theft worth more than one shilling was a capital offence and people were hanged for it. They hung them by standing them on the back of a cart, putting a noose around their necks and driving the cart away. They died by strangulation. Felons with friends or family in the crowd would have their legs pulled, thus breaking their necks and giving them a quicker death.

    What I like to call the Good Old Days!
    There were two types of hanging. The one you described is the Short Drop. The Long Drop was done on a proper scaffold and the fall should break the victim’s neck for a quick death, if the executioner was good at his job. A Short Drop death must’ve been a brutal way to go. 


    I've stood over a long drop with the noose round my neck in a prison (now museum) I visited in the US. I also sat in their gas chamber and on their electric chair. I still have the pictures.


    I think I was only around 10 or 11 at the time but thinking back it's not a very nice thing to do, seeing as people had actually been executed using them. I don't think I would do the same now.

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  • darthed1981darthed1981 Frets: 2677
    LuttiS said:
    Not much else going on in 1944 iirc..
    Foyle's War seemed a lot more eventful than this chap's War for sure...
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  • jellyrolljellyroll Frets: 2297
    boogieman said:
    There were two types of hanging. The one you described is the Short Drop. The Long Drop was done on a proper scaffold and the fall should break the victim’s neck for a quick death, if the executioner was good at his job. A Short Drop death must’ve been a brutal way to go. 
    Yeah, but this is Luton. Short Drop is £10 an hour. Long Drop cheaper but miles from the terminal (although I guess hanging was always terminal)....
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