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hootsmonhootsmon Frets: 9715
edited January 8 in Off Topic
...when you turn up at a gig with the absolute best in latest high end gear and think tae yourself ..."shit, i am under pressure tae be good here tonight with all this stuff"

On the other hand the opposite scenario is some dude walks in with the leanest and cheapest of gear and just kills everyone around for miles
tae be or not tae be
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  • AlexCAlexC Frets: 1611
    Ha! I’m always the guy with a Yamaha Pacifica so I can’t really comment! 
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  • I think its slightly relevent to me, loads of bands we play with have gone digital now so Axe FX's/Kemper's everywhere. Not saying our amps are bad but I just feel a bit crappy knowing they we haven't got that tight djenty riffing tone a compressed digital setting will give you, with the added option to switch to nice sparking cleans which could be a completely different amp with the switch of a button.
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  • MayneheadMaynehead Frets: 1365
    I feel pressure to play well regardless of what I’m using!
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  • jellyrolljellyroll Frets: 2282
    Audience doesn't give two shits about your stuff. No need to feel under pressure.
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  • Phil_aka_PipPhil_aka_Pip Frets: 9489
    I don't think I ever cared about what Joe Public thinks ... but I'd go to pieces if I saw another musician in the audience
    "Working" software has only unobserved bugs. (Parroty Error: Pieces of Nine! Pieces of Nine!)
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  • randellarandella Frets: 1970
    I don't think I ever cared about what Joe Public thinks ... but I'd go to pieces if I saw another musician in the audience
    I’m the opposite - the one or two players in the audience don’t bother me. They’re usually friendly for the most part, chats about gear and such afterwards. 

    I want to see Joe Public singing, drinking, and dancing, that’s when I go home happy. 
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  • digitalscreamdigitalscream Frets: 12773
    Nah. Most people have never heard of half the gear I use, so they always assume it's cheap shit and that their gear is better.
    "Mains is ouchy if you get it up you" - Sporky
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  • monquixotemonquixote Frets: 8308
    The only time I've really felt for someone was at a gig I saw at the Water rats.

    First band had a drum kit with 4 rack Toms 2 floor Toms 4 crash cymbals, 2 splash ride and a couple of chinas. Took him about an hour to set it all up. Drummer was workmanlike and used about half of the kit mostly staying on hats all night.

    Second band drummer borrowed the first bands kit and said to the guy. I don't know what half of this stuff is can I remove anything I don't need?

    Stripped it down to kick, hats snare and one crash and then just absolutely tore it up. He was pro standard and was playing all sorts of crazy stuff.

    The first bands drummer looked like he wanted to kill himself.
    Handsome_Chris said: Like white Nile Rodgers. 
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  • wave100wave100 Frets: 131
    It always amuses me when I see a guitarist with a pedalboard the area of a small country and they only use 2 pedals all night...
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  • Phil_aka_PipPhil_aka_Pip Frets: 9489
    wave100 said:
    It always amuses me when I see a guitarist with a pedalboard the area of a small country and they only use 2 pedals all night...
    OTOH people like me keep "A" pedalboard, it has everything on it that I'm likely to need. If for a particular gig I don't need most of them, that's OK, I still have only 1 connection in and 1 out and don't need to reconfigure the FX just for that gig
    "Working" software has only unobserved bugs. (Parroty Error: Pieces of Nine! Pieces of Nine!)
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  • english_bobenglish_bob Frets: 2380
    wave100 said:
    It always amuses me when I see a guitarist with a pedalboard the area of a small country and they only use 2 pedals all night...
    OTOH people like me keep "A" pedalboard, it has everything on it that I'm likely to need. If for a particular gig I don't need most of them, that's OK, I still have only 1 connection in and 1 out and don't need to reconfigure the FX just for that gig
    Yep. There's wisdom in having options available to you on a gig, but there's wisdom in knowing that they are only options.
    Just because it's there doesn't mean you have to fiddle with it etc.

    Don't talk politics and don't throw stones. Your royal highnesses.

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  • fretmeisterfretmeister Frets: 9750
    As a bassist - no one notices me or cares.

    The best I get is "Do you hope to have a Fender one day?" type questions when I've got a £3000 Marleaux round my neck.

    The only thing that bothers me about other players is when it's an average pub and some eijit has set up a 100 Plexi with a couple of 4x12s.

    Unless I see a good attenuator I'm not staying to have my hearing destroyed.

    "My belief is that bands are made up of bass, drums and a bunch of novelty acts."

    - Nick Mason.

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  • fretmeisterfretmeister Frets: 9750
    wave100 said:
    It always amuses me when I see a guitarist with a pedalboard the area of a small country and they only use 2 pedals all night...
    OTOH people like me keep "A" pedalboard, it has everything on it that I'm likely to need. If for a particular gig I don't need most of them, that's OK, I still have only 1 connection in and 1 out and don't need to reconfigure the FX just for that gig
    Yep. There's wisdom in having options available to you on a gig, but there's wisdom in knowing that they are only options.
    Just because it's there doesn't mean you have to fiddle with it etc.
    Spectre Media used to do a T-shirt with something like "Using 40 amp sims doesn't make you cool it makes you an asshole" :D 

    "My belief is that bands are made up of bass, drums and a bunch of novelty acts."

    - Nick Mason.

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  • digitalscreamdigitalscream Frets: 12773

    The best I get is "Do you hope to have a Fender one day?" type questions when I've got a £3000 Marleaux round my neck.

    I'm a guitarist and I get the same. I'm stood there with a pair of Jaden Rose guitars, and more than once I've had folk come up to me with, "Why bother with that cheap Chinese crap? Just get a real Ibanez...".
    "Mains is ouchy if you get it up you" - Sporky
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  • stickyfiddlestickyfiddle Frets: 10208
    The only time I've really felt for someone was at a gig I saw at the Water rats.

    First band had a drum kit with 4 rack Toms 2 floor Toms 4 crash cymbals, 2 splash ride and a couple of chinas. Took him about an hour to set it all up. Drummer was workmanlike and used about half of the kit mostly staying on hats all night.

    Second band drummer borrowed the first bands kit and said to the guy. I don't know what half of this stuff is can I remove anything I don't need?

    Stripped it down to kick, hats snare and one crash and then just absolutely tore it up. He was pro standard and was playing all sorts of crazy stuff.

    The first bands drummer looked like he wanted to kill himself.
    The best drummers I've played with are all like that (the second guy, not the first!). 

    Best was the dep we had for a NYE gig. Our usual drummer had a fairly chunky kits, plenty of cymbals and 4 toms. This guy showed up with just bass, snare, 2 toms, single crash, ride and hihats after a single rehearsal on a borrowed studio kit. He was an AWESOME drummer. That was the best we ever sounded by miles. 
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  • randellarandella Frets: 1970
    edited January 9

    The best I get is "Do you hope to have a Fender one day?" type questions when I've got a £3000 Marleaux round my neck.

    I'm a guitarist and I get the same. I'm stood there with a pair of Jaden Rose guitars, and more than once I've had folk come up to me with, "Why bother with that cheap Chinese crap? Just get a real Ibanez...".
    "What's that?"
    "It's a Mini Rectifier, it's a smaller version of the Mesa Rectifier heads."
    "All transistor then?"
    "No, it's valve."

    30 seconds later...

    "So it's transistor then?  I really prefer valves."

    Being sober around drunk folk doesn't help I guess.  I lose the will in the end and just smile politely.
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  • p90foolp90fool Frets: 9935
    We play girly pop, nobody has the slightest idea what gear we're using, including four out of the five of us. 
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  • digitalscreamdigitalscream Frets: 12773
    randella said:

    The best I get is "Do you hope to have a Fender one day?" type questions when I've got a £3000 Marleaux round my neck.

    I'm a guitarist and I get the same. I'm stood there with a pair of Jaden Rose guitars, and more than once I've had folk come up to me with, "Why bother with that cheap Chinese crap? Just get a real Ibanez...".
    "What's that?"
    "It's a Mini Rectifier, it's a smaller version of the Mesa Rectifier heads."
    "All transistor then?"
    "No, it's valve."

    30 seconds later...

    "So it's transistor then?  I really prefer valves."

    Being sober around drunk folk doesn't help I guess.  I lose the will in the end and just smile politely.
    I'm just imagining what's going to happen when I take the N4-alike I built out.

    "Yeah, it's cool that you built one, but why don't you just buy a real N4?"
    "Well, I have one, it's just that this one sounds and plays differently."
    "Yeah, but a real N4 would sound better, and the pickup switch wouldn't get in your way."
    "Actually, the pickup switch is exactly where I want it, because I built it for my....ah, what's the point? Yeah, you're right, and I'm just stupid for having this one. Can I buy you a drink as an apology?"

    Le. Sigh.
    "Mains is ouchy if you get it up you" - Sporky
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  • english_bobenglish_bob Frets: 2380
     Spectre Media used to do a T-shirt with something like "Using 40 amp sims doesn't make you cool it makes you an asshole" D 

    I have an approach to gear I'm going to start calling "the penis principle".

    It's good to have, and it's nice to be able to be proud of it. It's important to know what to do with it. Using it to bring yourself pleasure is good, but it's even better if at least one other person is enjoying it too. 

    It's not worth comparing yours to other people's. Not everybody will be as impressed with yours as you are. There's a time and a place for showing off what yours looks like and what you can do with it.

    On the internet you will find pictures of one dude who's bigger in that department than you ever thought possible, but you can be sure he has very limited opportunities to use all that.

    Don't talk politics and don't throw stones. Your royal highnesses.

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  • EvilmagsEvilmags Frets: 5111
    As a bassist - no one notices me or cares.

    The best I get is "Do you hope to have a Fender one day?" type questions when I've got a £3000 Marleaux round my neck.

    The only thing that bothers me about other players is when it's an average pub and some eijit has set up a 100 Plexi with a couple of 4x12s.

    Unless I see a good attenuator I'm not staying to have my hearing destroyed.
    Pete Docherty did that in a friends pub (also his manager at the time). It was louder than the PA and sounded awful. 
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  • Phil_aka_PipPhil_aka_Pip Frets: 9489
    Evilmags said:
    Pete Docherty did that in a friends pub (also his manager at the time). It was louder than the PA and sounded awful. 
    Pete Docherty sober/straight enough to stack a 4x12 on another 4x12? And plug them in correctly? Or did he have a roadie do it?
    "Working" software has only unobserved bugs. (Parroty Error: Pieces of Nine! Pieces of Nine!)
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  • monquixotemonquixote Frets: 8308
    Evilmags said:
    Pete Docherty did that in a friends pub (also his manager at the time). It was louder than the PA and sounded awful. 
    Pete Docherty sober/straight enough to stack a 4x12 on another 4x12? And plug them in correctly? Or did he have a roadie do it?

    I've always considered that there is a special circle of hell reserved for him when he did an interview where he stated that he will only play vintage guitars, but he often likes to smash them up for a laugh.
    Handsome_Chris said: Like white Nile Rodgers. 
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  • Phil_aka_PipPhil_aka_Pip Frets: 9489
    Evilmags said:
    Pete Docherty did that in a friends pub (also his manager at the time). It was louder than the PA and sounded awful. 
    Pete Docherty sober/straight enough to stack a 4x12 on another 4x12? And plug them in correctly? Or did he have a roadie do it?

    I've always considered that there is a special circle of hell reserved for him when he did an interview where he stated that he will only play vintage guitars, but he often likes to smash them up for a laugh.
    It that's not a wind up, then I agree with you, and it should be 7 times hotter than the one reserved for Judas
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  • ricorico Frets: 963
    We played an absolute farce of a gig a few months ago (that’s another story) and the bassist of another band turned up with some ridiculous Ashdown stack, claiming that there were only 100 in existence and then plugged in a pedalboard that was (and I’m not exaggerating) 5 foot wide. It even had fairy lights on it. He didn’t touch a single pedal all set (I know because the band was awful and I had nothing better to do) which I found hilarious. I had reasonably high expectations based on his gear but I suppose when he was struggling to play in time that should have been the give away. 
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  • HattigolHattigol Frets: 1915
    Yes.
    But it's not just limited to when I turn up at a gig.
    "Anybody can play. The note is only 20%. The attitude of the motherf*cker who plays it is  80%" - Miles Davis
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 34791
    hootsmon said:

    Does it ever bother you.....

    ...when you turn up at a gig with the absolute best in latest high end gear and think tae yourself ..."shit, i am under pressure tae be good here tonight with all this stuff"
    No. I use whatever I need to do the job, sometimes expensive and sometimes cheap, and it doesn't change how I use it. No-one out front really notices, and none of them care.

    I'm always under pressure to be good, and it's nothing to do with my gear ;).

    As a bassist - no one notices me
    I have a Behringer fuzz pedal which solves that problem - £24-worth of orange plastic which guarantees you will be heard :).

    As for amps I will usually play through anything that's loud enough and won't die in the middle of the set, if I don't have to carry it there.
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • not_the_djnot_the_dj Frets: 6038
    I used my Blue Floral Pattern Ibanez JEM last week. Amongst other tracks we played “Pretty Vacant” by the Sex Pistols and party cheese like “500 Miles” and “Mustang Sally”

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  • DannyPDannyP Frets: 836

    The best I get is "Do you hope to have a Fender one day?" type questions when I've got a £3000 Marleaux round my neck.

    Seriously though, do you hope to get a Fender one day?
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  • 57Deluxe57Deluxe Frets: 6159
    I always let my riffs do the talking. Ppl never say "great riffing"but  always - that guitar sounds great - what is it...?
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  • english_bobenglish_bob Frets: 2380
    57Deluxe said:
    I always let my riffs do the talking. Ppl never say "great riffing"but  always - that guitar sounds great - what is it...?
    Reminds me of the famous Chet Atkins story where he's recording with a new guitar and someone comments that the guitar sounds really good. Chet puts it down on a stand and says "how does it sound now?".

    Don't talk politics and don't throw stones. Your royal highnesses.

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