New Supro Blues King

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chrisj1602chrisj1602 Frets: 3894
edited January 2019 in Amps
Just noticed these...

https://suprousa.com/bluesking/

They sound/look pretty good from what I’ve found on YouTube.... probably aimed at the Blues Jr market, £599 at Andertons.
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 71960
    At least it sounds better than the marketing guff suggests... if I wanted ‘face-melting distortion’ - which I don’t - I wouldn’t buy a vintage-styled amp called a Blues King. Or vice versa.

    It’s better-sounding and with a better feature set than a Blues Junior too - the FX loop - although it is actually a hybrid amp not all-valve, which may bother some people.

    Shame they didn't use their normal colour scheme, the black - especially the grille cloth - looks a bit dull.

    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

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  • p90foolp90fool Frets: 31368
    That is odd - old geezer amp with teenage ad copy won't help sales much. 
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  • JeremiahJeremiah Frets: 631
    Does 15 watts sound a bit optimistic for a single ended 6L6 output valve?
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 71960
    Jeremiah said:
    Does 15 watts sound a bit optimistic for a single ended 6L6 output valve?
    It's just about feasible. A 6L6GC has a plate dissipation rating of 30W, and you can get up to half that as power output in single-ended. Transformer efficiency won't be 100% though, so it's pushing it a bit - but not too bad by guitar-amp fudge standards. It depends what THD figure they're quoting too... most likely 'some' ;).

    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

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  • 57Deluxe57Deluxe Frets: 7329
    OOOooouch - that sounds horrid....
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  • TimmyOTimmyO Frets: 7350
    Agree with ICBM they should have had the confidence to stick with their (pretty cool) distinctive livery 
    Red ones are better. 
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  • dindudedindude Frets: 8534
    ICBM said:
    At least it sounds better than the marketing guff suggests... if I wanted ‘face-melting distortion’ - which I don’t - I wouldn’t buy a vintage-styled amp called a Blues King. Or vice versa.

    It’s better-sounding and with a better feature set than a Blues Junior too - the FX loop - although it is actually a hybrid amp not all-valve, which may bother some people.

    Shame they didn't use their normal colour scheme, the black - especially the grille cloth - looks a bit dull.
    I’d take a Blues Junior IV every day of the week over that, it’s sounds horribly generic.
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  • Dave_McDave_Mc Frets: 2328
    ICBM said:
    At least it sounds better than the marketing guff suggests... if I wanted ‘face-melting distortion’ - which I don’t - I wouldn’t buy a vintage-styled amp called a Blues King. Or vice versa.

    It’s better-sounding and with a better feature set than a Blues Junior too - the FX loop - although it is actually a hybrid amp not all-valve, which may bother some people.

    Shame they didn't use their normal colour scheme, the black - especially the grille cloth - looks a bit dull.
    Isn't the fat switch on the BJ solid state? Maybe I misread the ad copy about the Supro but it sounded like only the high gain and boost modes were solid state on the Supro, so I guess it might be all-tube without the boost or high gain mode selected.

    Seems a bit dear (assuming it's going to be £599 as mentioned above) for a glorified single-ended amp with a couple of pedals built in, but I guess, to be fair, they deserve credit for being fairly up-front about the solid state stuff in the signal path.
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 71960
    edited January 2019
    dindude said:

    I’d take a Blues Junior IV every day of the week over that, it’s sounds horribly generic.
    I think it sounds better than a Blues Junior - at least until they turn on the high gain, and less generic - it isn't as horribly muddy and compressed.

    Dave_Mc said:

    Isn't the fat switch on the BJ solid state?
    No - it's switched with a transistor, but all it does is boost gain on one valve stage by switching in a cathode bypass cap.

    Dave_Mc said:

    Maybe I misread the ad copy about the Supro but it sounded like only the high gain and boost modes were solid state on the Supro, so I guess it might be all-tube without the boost or high gain mode selected.
    I don't think there are enough valves - just one preamp valve, two gain stages. An all-valve amp with a tone stack, reverb mixer section and enough gain to overdrive like that would need at least three, even with no phase inverter.

    Dave_Mc said:

    Seems a bit dear (assuming it's going to be £599 as mentioned above) for a glorified single-ended amp with a couple of pedals built in, but I guess, to be fair, they deserve credit for being fairly up-front about the solid state stuff in the signal path.
    It's not too bad - all their other stuff was hugely overpriced to begin with, so this was a welcome surprise. They're definitely wise to admit to the solid-state before someone looks inside .

    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

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  • chrisj1602chrisj1602 Frets: 3894
    Just read this very positive review so thought I’d resurrect this old thread...

    https://guitar.com/review/amplifier/supro-1812r-blues-king-12/

    Really tempted...
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  • There's also a glowing review in this months Total Guitar.

    @chrisj1602 I suggest you give in to temptation and report back to us :wink: 
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  • MagicPigDetectiveMagicPigDetective Frets: 2993
    edited September 2019
    Has anyone bought or tried one of these? They  interest me....
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  • AndyJPAndyJP Frets: 219
    Looks cool. They do one with an 8 inch speaker too.

    https://suprousa.com/bluesking8/
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  • I’m bored with my Katana, I just use it now as a pedal platform. I could do with an amp that does the home quiet thing/pedal platform, but also has some valve dynamics when pushed. A PRRI would be superb but this is half the price, so I am tempted.
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  • For a brand who seem to make a big deal of their aesthetics I was very surprised how ugly and utilitarian they managed to make these look. Seems a decent spec but I listened to the demo they put on Facebook for the new 8" one and it sounded awful.

    Used to love my 1605R but it was a pricey little bugger
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  • TeleMasterTeleMaster Frets: 10103
    edited September 2019
    8 inch speaker? No idea what I’d do with that. 

    The aesthetics are good though. Nice looking. 
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  • 8 inch speaker? No idea what I’d do with that. 

    The aesthetics are good though. Nice looking. 
    There’s a 15 watt with 12” or the 1 watt with 8”
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  • TeleMasterTeleMaster Frets: 10103
    8 inch speaker? No idea what I’d do with that. 

    The aesthetics are good though. Nice looking. 
    There’s a 15 watt with 12” or the 1 watt with 8”
    Yea I know. It just seems like the 8 inch, 1 watt is too loud for home use, not loud enough for band use. Maybe decent for recording but ultimately very limited in its application.  
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  • AndyJPAndyJP Frets: 219
    I've picked up the Supro Blues King 8 for home use.  Got to say I'm pretty fond of it.  It's a 1 watter with master volume.   It really does the old school chicago vibe well.  I've got it cranked and it's not that loud.
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  • AndyJPAndyJP Frets: 219
    PS - the boost on the Supro Blues King is a loada sh1te!
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