Installing a speaker newbie. Embarrassing question..

Creed_Clicks

Picked up a Juketone cab and a Ragin Cajun 10" speaker before the Christmas, and only getting around to sorting it out now.

Total rookie/newbie to this....

Managed to screw off back of cab, with great difficulty, and notice, with the Ragin Cajun out of the box, I didn't get any screws or wiring to help fix the speaker in the cab.

Any ideas what length screws, or what type I should get? Or the wire for the connection? I'm thinking of just getting in touch with a local guitar tech to ask them to do it, next time I'm there.

martinw

What came with the cab?

Creed_Clicks

Nothing. 

ICBM

Creed_Clicks said:

Nothing. 

Is the cab new? If so that’s not very good.

Contact the seller either way - but if they won’t supply the bolts you’ll need to know what thread they are and how thick the baffle is. The bolts should be roughly as long as the thickness of the baffle plus the rim of the speaker, so they go nearly to the front of the T-nuts but don’t stick out, or they may puncture the grille cloth.

More or less any wire will be fine for connecting the speaker as long as it will handle more than about 2 or 3A - a bit of old 2-core mains cable is perfect. There’s no special magical property needed.

Creed_Clicks

Seller got back to me:

The cab is pre-fitted with t-nuts (if you push your finger between the the baffle and the cloth on the inside you should feel the nut fitted, you generally can't see them from the inside) which means you will need 5mm bolts, usually 25mm in length should do it.

I never even heard of a "baffle" before, in all my years of playing, that's how much of a rookie I am with installing speakers etc...  

John_A

Bit tight of them not to supply bolts, but at least you know what you need now

Creed_Clicks

John_A said:

Bit tight of them not to supply bolts, but at least you know what you need now

Anyone know a good online place I could get them?

John_A

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/M5-5mm-POZI-PAN-HEAD-MACHINE-SCREWS-POZI-DRIVE-BOLTS-A2-STAINLESS-STEEL-KAYS/150938013876?hash=item23249b50b4:m:mHjOJ37aAI2wQOY790xAAhQ:rk:11:pf:0

Some locking washers is a good idea too

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/M4-M5-M6-M8-M10-M12-Zinc-Internal-Shakeproof-Locking-Washers-Crinkle-Shake-Proof/332654165003?hash=item4d73bbbc0b:rk:5:pf:0&var&checksum=33265416500305a8b3c9788b48578e51f490e71331f9&enc=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

Creed_Clicks

Cheers!

John_A

Or if you google 'fastner suppliers' there may be somewhere close to you that are cheaper, but for the sake of a couple of quid may not be worth it

Oh, don't tighten them down too hard or you'll bend the speaker frame

Creed_Clicks

John_A said:

Or if you google 'fastner suppliers' there may be somewhere close to you that are cheaper, but for the sake of a couple of quid may not be worth it

Oh, don't tighten them down too hard or you'll bend the speaker frame

I'll go with the ebay link, should be fine and as per their email, I should be going for 25mm length.

Should I be going for the M5 locking washers too? (silly question I know...)

martinw

25mm sounds long unless you have an 18mm thick baffle.

With a 12mm baffle I use M5x20, but with plain and lock washers.
You don't want the end of the screw protruding out if the tee nut.

And yes, very poor to sell an empty cab with no fittings and wiring.

RiftAmps

PM me and I'll send some out in various lengths for you, just cover the cost of postage

Creed_Clicks

Twas a Juketone cab I bought. Must say, the cab is decent. It was a struggle getting the screws off the back though, they were fixed fairly soundly.
I probably should have researched the screw part earlier though. I thought they would have come with the speaker.

ICBM

I also forgot to say - there are no embarrassing newbie questions.

Save your embarrassment for doing something like being afraid to ask, then using the wrong type of screw, buggering the T-nut, being unable to get the bolt back out again, chewing up the baffle when you put enough force on to spin the T-nut in the wood, then finally trying to drill it out and punching a hole in the grille cloth when the drill breaks through...

Yes, I've seen that done!

bloodandtears

^ this...  ask away, always...

Creed_Clicks

Thanks folks!