The Stone Roses - Released 30 years ago today

the_jaffa

The most important album in my life, and the reason I play guitar at all was released 30 years ago today. 

Really doesn’t seem that long ago

vasselmeyer

Still an exceptional album with great playing and funky as hell with a bunch of ambient thrown in for good measure. It shouldn't work, but it does.

I still love it, in its original form without "Fools Gold" jammed on the end of it.

munckee

I had never heard of them until a few weeks after it came out, a mate bought the vinyl and 6 of us sat in his lounge and played it repeatedly and music was never the same again for me.  I am the resurrection remains my favourite piece of guitar music.

darthed1981

Johnny Marr and John Squire between them just built the foundations of all the music I love.

It's easy to forget how good the best tracks on this album are.

TheMarlin

Prefer Second Coming myself....

darthed1981

TheMarlin said:

Prefer Second Coming myself....

Ooooh... controversial

Clecko

darthed1981 said:

TheMarlin said:

Prefer Second Coming myself....

Ooooh... controversial

I went to this achingly-cool-rich-kid house party in a mansion just outside Chester in the mid-90s and someone put Second Coming on, played Breaking Into Heaven just until the ambient, jungle-like noses stopped and then switched to a different album altogether. Magical. 

robinbowes

darthed1981 said:

TheMarlin said:

Prefer Second Coming myself....

Ooooh... wrong

Fixed that for you. 

munckee

Comparing the two is almost impossible, second coming is much more professionally produced and has what sounds to my ears like more complex playing on - however the impact of the first album plus the raw abililty of the band and the catchiness of the songs places it higher for me.

vasselmeyer

TheMarlin said:

Prefer Second Coming myself....

I's assuming you're referring to the  "Shaun of the Dead" scene in the back garden...

Ed: The Stone Roses?
Shaun: No.
Ed: Second Coming!?
Shaun: I like it.

TonyR

TheMarlin said:

Prefer Second Coming myself....

I think “Second Coming” is a great album and underrated you many.

I remember the first time I heard “The Stone Roses”, I wasn’t expecting much but was blown away - had a mate that worked in HMV at the time, rang him immediately to ask him to get me a copy (using his staff discount obviously!!).

30 years later (I can’t believe it’s that long) it’s still up there in my top 5 albums of all time, “Second Coming” doesn’t make my top 10!

menamestom

Great album.  I think John Leckie deserves a mention, because it is a s much a product of the excellent production as the songs and playing.  The production is great as you can't really hear it so much, but you can hear the music so well.

The 2nd coming is a good album as well, less coherent as a collection of music, dirtier and a bit more self indulgent, but some good songs and riffs.

not_the_dj

Second Coming for me as well. I skip a lot of the debut album if I have it on in the car. 

Heartfeltdawn

Second Coming: half fabulous, half dogshit. 

That and Be Here Now represent exactly what happens when too much hype and too much money has crossed paths with too much cocaine. 

mudslide73

I was around at the time but missed it due to being obsessed with Led Zeppelin. A mate got me into them around the time of "One Love" by us listening to all his 12" singles with their magnificent b sides. Standing Here and Mersey Paradise are as good as anything on the first album. I got a capo soon after.

I very much like Second Coming but it's not in the same league lads.

Reverend

I was around too but there was far too much exciting metal going on to pay attention to this. 

darthed1981

Reverend said:

I was around too but there was far too much exciting metal going on to pay attention to this. 

Horses for courses innit?

Danny1969

I still play stuff from the debut album now, was just listening to Made of Stone before I saw this thread. Just a brilliant album all round can't believe it's been 30 years 

TheMarlin

vasselmeyer said:

TheMarlin said:

Prefer Second Coming myself....

I's assuming you're referring to the  "Shaun of the Dead" scene in the back garden...

Ed: The Stone Roses?
Shaun: No.
Ed: Second Coming!?
Shaun: I like it.

I do indeed love that film, but i genuinely prefer the second album. Better production, better guitar playing, more variety and depth than the first album. 

Don’t get me wrong, I love the first album, but it gets on my nerves after a while, production is too gloopy. Plus, I’ve just heard it to much, reached saturation point with it. 

I reacquainted myself with Second Coming about five years ago, and improbably listen to it about once A month now.  Great album.  Intros w@nk on a bit though...  

axisus

A band I have never knowingly heard. I couldn't name one song of theirs. My perception of them was that they wouldn't interest me. 

the_jaffa

axisus said:

A band I have never knowingly heard. I couldn't name one song of theirs. My perception of them was that they wouldn't interest me. 

And yet you came on a thread all about them just to say that. I’ve never understood this sort of post. If there’s a band that I feel like that about I might, maybe, read the thread about them but I would ever feel the need to post because it would bring absolutely nothing to the conversation. 

FWIW, I like most of the Second Coming but it’s just not got the same appeal to me. It’s all a bit too obvious in my opinion whereas I really enjoy the subtlety of the first album. I think the guitar playing on the first album is far more interesting than on the Second Coming. The lyrical content is definitely better too. Then there’s the slight unfinished feel to the Second Coming; Daybreak in particular sounding like an unfinished jam (I actually quite like it but look forward to hearing the finished article someday). 

Less said about the godawful Straight to the Man the better. 

This is all just my opinion though obviously and I would never force that on anyone else. For me though, they hit their peak about August 89