Recommendations for a good jazz guitar instructional?

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PonchoGregPonchoGreg Frets: 80
Hiya,

With the sheer scale (ha ha) of teaching materials available online, in books, on YT, etc I find it a bit tough to find something structured that would encourage me to stick to it.

Any recommendations on a good method to build up my jazz playing? Not too fussed about format, could be PDF, print, videos, etc.

Level-wise my theory is practically non-existent :) I know some of the basic jazz chords from learning a few tunes over the years though.

Thanks a lot in advance for any tips!
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  • sweavesweave Frets: 7
    For theory I can recommend Mark Levine, The Jazz Theory Book. Not aimed at guitarists but very comprehensive yet accessible at the same time....nice!
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  • PonchoGregPonchoGreg Frets: 80
    Cheers man, will check that out. Perhaps I should have mentioned that (with time being a rare commodity), anything that's playing-based rather than purely theoretical would be preferable. I do realise that a good theoretical foundation becomes essential in jazz fairly early on though...
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  • BlueingreenBlueingreen Frets: 936
    edited May 28
    Never used them myself but the Mickey Baker books still seem to have a solid reputation among jazzers.

    I'm more a jazz dabbler than a proper jazzer but I'd recommend:

    - for comping, Maiden Voyage Guitar Voicings by Mike DeLiddo.  Easily one of the best guitar books I've bought and one of the very few I've learned cover to cover

    - for soloing An Introduction to Jazz Guitar Soloing by Joe Elliott.  Assumes you are already reasonably comfortable with the idea of "single key" improvising (eg playing in C major on a Dm7/G7/Cmaj7) and gives you strategies for playing more harmonically interesting stuff against major and minor 2 5 1s.  If you work through it it will enable to you to start playing "outside" sounding stuff that sounds musical against jazz progressions.

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  • PonchoGregPonchoGreg Frets: 80
    Amazing, thanks mate
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  • GassageGassage Frets: 22133
    Paging @stuartryanmusic ; ....

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  • BebopperBebopper Frets: 62
    Hi @PonchoGreg ;

    A recommendation for Sheryl Bailey's video course 'Bebop Dojo: Essentials', available through Truefire: https://truefire.com/jazz-guitar-lessons/bebop-dojo-essentials/c111

    It's a solid, organised course that will give you a good basic set of skills for jazz playing and get you playing over some basic progressions.

    Sheryl's a fantastic player and teacher (I took online one-to-one lessons with her for several years) and I can recommend all her stuff.

    PS. She's in the UK in June for a bunch of gigs and is giving workshops in London, Cambridge and Huddersfield too.
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  • PonchoGregPonchoGreg Frets: 80
    Smashing, thank you
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  • BarneyBarney Frets: 393
    Check out the Sal Salvador jazz guitar series ...some great things in there and very accessible if just starting that type of thing 
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  • ArchtopDaveArchtopDave Frets: 556
    Bebopper said:
    Hi @PonchoGreg ;

    A recommendation for Sheryl Bailey's video course 'Bebop Dojo: Essentials', available through Truefire: https://truefire.com/jazz-guitar-lessons/bebop-dojo-essentials/c111

    It's a solid, organised course that will give you a good basic set of skills for jazz playing and get you playing over some basic progressions.

    Sheryl's a fantastic player and teacher (I took online one-to-one lessons with her for several years) and I can recommend all her stuff.

    PS. She's in the UK in June for a bunch of gigs and is giving workshops in London, Cambridge and Huddersfield too.
    I agree .... Her Truefire Courses are excellent. I have the one on Jazz Comping. Would really love to see her live, but I'm away in Italy (playing guitar!!, or at least trying to).
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  • PonchoGregPonchoGreg Frets: 80
    I'm definitely checking that course - looks like exactly what I'm after, and good value to boot
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  • BranshenBranshen Frets: 1020
    If you can, get a good teacher for jazz. It's a really tough genre to tackle on your own. 
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  • koss59koss59 Frets: 572
    One of the biggest things for me was the Emily Remler instructional video if you can find it!
    I bought the Micky Baker book after everyone seemed to rav about it but I think its the best thing to put you off learning any jazz, horrible book.
    I personally couldn’t ever learn music from books though.
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  • vizviz Frets: 5433
    edited June 2
    I think it depends on the jazz. A good place to start is swing / big band / American broadway. 

    An alternative is gypsy jazz / bossa. 

    Both are easy and melodic. Once you’ve got them under your fingers you can move to bebop. 

    Youtube is your friend, but so is sheet music / chord charts. 
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  • MegiiMegii Frets: 1513
    koss59 said:
    One of the biggest things for me was the Emily Remler instructional video if you can find it!
    I bought the Micky Baker book after everyone seemed to rav about it but I think its the best thing to put you off learning any jazz, horrible book.
    I personally couldn’t ever learn music from books though.
    Another vote for the Emily Remler videos - there were actually two "Bebop and Swing Guitar" and then "Advanced Jazz and Latin Guitar" which despite the title is still taught in a very accessible, straightforward way. I think they were at one point released on DVD so you might find copies available.

    I've been signed up to Barry Greene's video lessons site for a while now, and find it to be excellent, and he keeps adding new lessons. Was recommended to me by a pro jazz guitarist, and has proved very worthwhile. There is a "stepping stones" series of lessons for those fairly new to jazz guitar, covering the essentials you need to then move on to the other lessons (of which there are a lot).

    https://barrygreenevideolessons.vhx.tv/

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  • PonchoGregPonchoGreg Frets: 80
    Cheers guys - Barry Greene's site does look good.

    In the meantime I got the Sheryl Bailey course as there was a BOGOF thing on truefire (and I got full access to all the site for a month). I might glean as much as possible there and move on!
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  • ArchtopDaveArchtopDave Frets: 556
    edited June 2
    Megii said:
    koss59 said:
    One of the biggest things for me was the Emily Remler instructional video if you can find it!
    I bought the Micky Baker book after everyone seemed to rav about it but I think its the best thing to put you off learning any jazz, horrible book.
    I personally couldn’t ever learn music from books though.
    Another vote for the Emily Remler videos - there were actually two "Bebop and Swing Guitar" and then "Advanced Jazz and Latin Guitar" which despite the title is still taught in a very accessible, straightforward way. I think they were at one point released on DVD so you might find copies available.

    I've been signed up to Barry Greene's video lessons site for a while now, and find it to be excellent, and he keeps adding new lessons. Was recommended to me by a pro jazz guitarist, and has proved very worthwhile. There is a "stepping stones" series of lessons for those fairly new to jazz guitar, covering the essentials you need to then move on to the other lessons (of which there are a lot).

    https://barrygreenevideolessons.vhx.tv/

    You're right - I have both of Emily Remler's Courses on DVD. She's my favourite guitarist, and there is the website allthingsemily.com dedicated to her work. I was really pleased last year to come across a Gibson 330 which had had a pair of PAF's put in it sometime in the past, which more or less replicated her main guitar.
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  • MegiiMegii Frets: 1513
    Megii said:
    koss59 said:
    One of the biggest things for me was the Emily Remler instructional video if you can find it!
    I bought the Micky Baker book after everyone seemed to rav about it but I think its the best thing to put you off learning any jazz, horrible book.
    I personally couldn’t ever learn music from books though.
    Another vote for the Emily Remler videos - there were actually two "Bebop and Swing Guitar" and then "Advanced Jazz and Latin Guitar" which despite the title is still taught in a very accessible, straightforward way. I think they were at one point released on DVD so you might find copies available.

    I've been signed up to Barry Greene's video lessons site for a while now, and find it to be excellent, and he keeps adding new lessons. Was recommended to me by a pro jazz guitarist, and has proved very worthwhile. There is a "stepping stones" series of lessons for those fairly new to jazz guitar, covering the essentials you need to then move on to the other lessons (of which there are a lot).

    https://barrygreenevideolessons.vhx.tv/

    You're right - I have both of Emily Remler's Courses on DVD. She's my favourite guitarist, and there is the website allthingsemily.com dedicated to her work. I was really pleased last year to come across a Gibson 330 which had had a pair of PAF's put in it sometime in the past, which more or less replicated her main guitar.
    That's something I've thought about too with the guitar - it would probably be sacrilege to convert a 330 that hadn't already been done like the one you found, but I have considered getting an Epi Casino and fitting humbuckers - wouldn't be quite the same, but close I imagine. Of course she would have told us that it's not about the gear anyhow... :D Probably my favourite jazz guitarist also, have all the CDs. :)   
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  • JalapenoJalapeno Frets: 3764
    koss59 said:
    One of the biggest things for me was the Emily Remler instructional video if you can find it!
    I bought the Micky Baker book after everyone seemed to rav about it but I think its the best thing to put you off learning any jazz, horrible book.
    I personally couldn’t ever learn music from books though.
    Disagree bout the Mickey Baker book, I love it - it is a bit odd to start with, but the unstated objective is that he's training your ear.  The "trust me I'm a doctor" approach might not be to everyone's taste, and the chord mountain he starts you climbing is daunting.

    The Mark Levine book is an excellent THEORY guide, but not really suitable as guitar tutorial. I love the book, but it is flaming expensive.

    Agree that Emily Remler DVDs are great and straightforward. Jimmy Bruno No Nonsense DVDs are also excellent.

    Anything that starts you on scales & modes should be avoided (as it will take forever) - look for tuition based on arpeggios, making your own melodies (hardest bit for me) & tonal centres to get you going in a functional way.

    If you have Truefire access, I agree that Sheryl Bailey (going to an all day tutorial with her in a couple of weeks) is good, but there's also excellent tuition from Frank Vignola, Fareeq Haque, Jeff McErlaine, Bill Evans / Mike Stern and Mimi Fox.  Also lots of 50 Licks sessions in various jazz styles.

    Truefire also superb for very jazzy blues having both Larry Carlton & Robben Ford as instructors.
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  • JalapenoJalapeno Frets: 3764
    Also Jens Larsen's YouTube channel is good, but his pace with content is relentless so pick and choose.
    Imagine something sharp and witty here ......

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  • nickpnickp Frets: 158
    useful thread thanks :)

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