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Now we are settled in to our larger workshop I'm going to be trialing an idea I've had in mind for some time: Pickup winding days. 

There are lots of build your own guitar courses ... but I believe this will be the first ever course for pickups! 
Two students at a time can come and spend a day with me in the Oil City workshop, and under full instruction, make a their own set of pickups ... all materials included.



Tea and coffee will be available as required and (we hope) a pub lunch will be included in the price ... at a wonderful hostelry mere yards from our premises  ... perhaps come and share a beer with me and our team after the days efforts (beers not included lol)

Learn how to hand scatter wind, or make your own, super authentic PAF replica. You could make a fire breathing metal pickup or a early fifties style single coil ... all with high quality/authentic materials.
 


The cost of this will be piloted at £195.00 per person ... that's about the value of a good set of humbuckers ... so you could see it as a day of fun and instruction with a free set of pickups at the end! 
 
Our workshop is on Leyton High Road, five minutes walk from Leyton tube on the central line. This puts us close to excellent and reasonably priced hotels one stop back up the line at Stratford City.

We hope to start in late July with weekend dates ... if you are interested please PM me.  
Professional pickup winder, horse-testpilot and recovering Chocolate Hobnob addict.
Formerly TheGuitarWeasel ... Oil City Pickups  ... Oil City Blog

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  • ftumchftumch Frets: 408
    Fantastic idea! I'm sure this will do really well.
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  • TTonyTTony Frets: 15375
    What an excellent idea.

    Make your own design p'ups under Ash's watchful eyes, all the parts & tools, and a day out in East London all for <£200?  What's not to like.

     :+1: 
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  • Zodiac51Zodiac51 Frets: 323
    That's a fantastic idea and at a great price..Nice one!
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  • lovestrat74lovestrat74 Frets: 572
    Great idea mate - great Father's Day present ;)
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  • markblagdonmarkblagdon Frets: 1078
    I’m up for this, I want to wind a bridge humbucker with nickel cover for a strat.
    Karma......
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  • sev112sev112 Frets: 577
    Blooming fabulous idea and I’m interested .  Would be even more interested if it could include supervising fitting the new pickups to our guitars, for those of us with limited / zero electronics and soldering knowledge - would that be viable at all or would that be impracticable in the time ?
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  • OilCityPickupsOilCityPickups Frets: 4154
    sev112 said:
    Blooming fabulous idea and I’m interested .  Would be even more interested if it could include supervising fitting the new pickups to our guitars, for those of us with limited / zero electronics and soldering knowledge - would that be viable at all or would that be impracticable in the time ?
    My idea would be to have more than just me available as tech support, so that could be a possibility ... it might have to be a little bit more expensive to cover another pair of qualified hands ... but it's something we could look at. This is very early doors on this process ... and I want to get as much input from potential customers as possible.
    Professional pickup winder, horse-testpilot and recovering Chocolate Hobnob addict.
    Formerly TheGuitarWeasel ... Oil City Pickups  ... Oil City Blog

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  • sev112sev112 Frets: 577
    sev112 said:
    Blooming fabulous idea and I’m interested .  Would be even more interested if it could include supervising fitting the new pickups to our guitars, for those of us with limited / zero electronics and soldering knowledge - would that be viable at all or would that be impracticable in the time ?
    My idea would be to have more than just me available as tech support, so that could be a possibility ... it might have to be a little bit more expensive to cover another pair of qualified hands ... but it's something we could look at. This is very early doors on this process ... and I want to get as much input from potential customers as possible.
    Great - please keep me on your interested list.  Really great innovative and exciting idea :)
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  • markblagdonmarkblagdon Frets: 1078
    It would be good to have a guitar to hand with a HB and SC and interchangeable controls so we could understand the effect of pots and caps on the pickup sound - would that be possible?
    Karma......
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  • TTonyTTony Frets: 15375
    OilCityPickups said:

     and I want to get as much input from potential customers as possible.
    Adding to the PM ...

    Would you have to have some sort of boundaries on what people could design and build in the day, or would it really be  a case of "if you can design it, we can build it"?   

    Presume people would have to have a reasonably firm idea of what they wanted to build beforehand, if only so you can confirm that its viable, and ensure that you've got the necessary bits & pieces in stock?

    Does £195 give you enough margin?  A day of your time, plus all the parts, plus something towards overheads ...
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 18161
    Get people to agree what they want to wind before they turn up... 
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  • OilCityPickupsOilCityPickups Frets: 4154
    It would be good to have a guitar to hand with a HB and SC and interchangeable controls so we could understand the effect of pots and caps on the pickup sound - would that be possible?
    We already have that ... our Feline test guitar works in that way.
    TTony said:
    OilCityPickups said:

     and I want to get as much input from potential customers as possible.
    Adding to the PM ...

    Would you have to have some sort of boundaries on what people could design and build in the day, or would it really be  a case of "if you can design it, we can build it"?   

    Presume people would have to have a reasonably firm idea of what they wanted to build beforehand, if only so you can confirm that its viable, and ensure that you've got the necessary bits & pieces in stock?

    Does £195 give you enough margin?  A day of your time, plus all the parts, plus something towards overheads ...
    There would have to be some limits ... stuff that required lots of CAD design and laser cutting would be out ... there would simply not be enough time.
    I think we will get potential students to fill in a form with a pretty broad selection of options and thus give us the chance to order in any parts we might not have in stock. We would also try to pair up students (we could only take two at a time) so that what they were making used different resources and they don't find themselves in each other's way. 
    We have two winding stations for example, but only one laser cutter ... so we have to be canny with our use of resources.

    £195.00 per person is based on two students for a full working day, and wouldn't include super exotic options like 'Time Machine covers' on PAFs ... as those are close to £80.00 a pair as it stands! Students could of course bring their own with things like that if they so wished. 

    Professional pickup winder, horse-testpilot and recovering Chocolate Hobnob addict.
    Formerly TheGuitarWeasel ... Oil City Pickups  ... Oil City Blog

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  • ToneControlToneControl Frets: 5353
    Great idea
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  • RolandRoland Frets: 2564
    Excellent idea Ash. I’d love to do this just for the experience, let alone the pickups.
    TTony said:
    OilCityPickups said:

     and I want to get as much input from potential customers as possible.
    ... Does £195 give you enough margin?  ...
    There’s no reason why you shouldn’t revise the price after a trial period.
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  • OilCityPickupsOilCityPickups Frets: 4154
    Roland said:
    Excellent idea Ash. I’d love to do this just for the experience, let alone the pickups.
    TTony said:
    OilCityPickups said:

     and I want to get as much input from potential customers as possible.
    ... Does £195 give you enough margin?  ...
    There’s no reason why you shouldn’t revise the price after a trial period.
    That's why we are piloting on £195.00 ... that gives us a little upwards wiggle room ... I'm also in the process of writing what I hope will be a definitive book on pickups and winding ... and that may well wind up as part of the package at some point in the future. 
    Professional pickup winder, horse-testpilot and recovering Chocolate Hobnob addict.
    Formerly TheGuitarWeasel ... Oil City Pickups  ... Oil City Blog

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  • axisusaxisus Frets: 12869
    Sounds like a great idea!
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  • FezFez Frets: 214
    Brilliant idea.
    Don't touch that dial.
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  • m_cm_c Frets: 499
    I do like the sound of this. However I'd probably be more interested in the machinery involved, rather than the pickups!
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  • Revolting1Revolting1 Frets: 18
    Stonking idea =)       Do you plan to keep it weekends only?
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  • ToneControlToneControl Frets: 5353
    will the afternoon pickup made by the student have more scattered windings than usual after a pub lunch?
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  • springheadspringhead Frets: 382
    Excellent idea. I'm definitely on for that. I think some form of questionnaire beforehand would help you prepare and perhaps temper peoples ideas into what's achievable on the day. Exciting!
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  • bodhibodhi Frets: 1069
    Sounds like a great idea.  If it did include having the pickups installed, that would nicely round it off as a complete package/project.
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  • OilCityPickupsOilCityPickups Frets: 4154
    bodhi said:
    Sounds like a great idea.  If it did include having the pickups installed, that would nicely round it off as a complete package/project.
    As I said ... installation would probably have to be an extra charge, as sub 200 is cheap for pickups and tuition :-)
    Professional pickup winder, horse-testpilot and recovering Chocolate Hobnob addict.
    Formerly TheGuitarWeasel ... Oil City Pickups  ... Oil City Blog

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  • hotpickupshotpickups Frets: 1092
    I could be up for this. When do you think you’ll start ?
    Link to my trading feedback:  http://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/59452/
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  • Jez6345789Jez6345789 Frets: 1068
    Cracking idea 
    will see what dates I have free when back
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  • GluedtoMusicGluedtoMusic Frets: 37
    Awesome idea!
    Supplier of Gotoh, Schaller, Hipshot, Faber, Floyd Rose, TonePros, Graph Tech, Hosco luthier tools and many more.
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  • OilCityPickupsOilCityPickups Frets: 4154
    We are working away at the moment to put together a questionnaire and sign up form for the 'winding days'. It's important we don't allow people to 'bite off more than they can chew' in a day of learning and building ... and we balance that with the widest choice of pickup types we can on offer. I taught at a local college before starting Oil City Pickups, so I have a pretty good grasp of how to plan work, impart knowledge ... and how to keep adult learners in order :-) 

     I'm looking at the last couple of weekends in July to get the ball rolling, and depending how much work we have there may be a few weekday slots available in addition ... though this will be at fairly short notice. 

    Hopefully I should be able to have signup forms available in the next couple of weeks.  
    Professional pickup winder, horse-testpilot and recovering Chocolate Hobnob addict.
    Formerly TheGuitarWeasel ... Oil City Pickups  ... Oil City Blog

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  • guitars4youguitars4you Frets: 5479
    What a brilliant idea Ash  - It would be worth a day to come and chat, then find out more about what goes on behind the build as such - Which variables offers subtle but effective variations - ie update my own knowledge as such
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  • OilCityPickupsOilCityPickups Frets: 4154
    What a brilliant idea Ash  - It would be worth a day to come and chat, then find out more about what goes on behind the build as such - Which variables offers subtle but effective variations - ie update my own knowledge as such
    Would be more than happy to have you over. PM me :-)
    Professional pickup winder, horse-testpilot and recovering Chocolate Hobnob addict.
    Formerly TheGuitarWeasel ... Oil City Pickups  ... Oil City Blog

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  • hootsmonhootsmon Frets: 10869
    Splendid  :)
    tae be or not tae be
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