What do you think is gonna happen?

ESBlonde

It's a real sham content like Nocasters pic laden thread on how to balance the new valves in his HRD have been lost. MR took the poster community for granted but in their defence they are a business and their primary income was paper based. If they realise the interwebs are the future (ironic name there) they will rebuild the forum and develope that as an income stream.

Hopefully as our new home builds data it will go up the search engines ratings, so post your useful content folks so those lost in cyberspace can stumble upon us.

stickyfiddle

ESBlonde said:

It's a real sham content like Nocasters pic laden thread on how to balance the new valves in his HRD have been lost. MR took the poster community for granted but in their defence they are a business and their primary income was paper based. If they realise the interwebs are the future (ironic name there) they will rebuild the forum and develope that as an income stream.

Hopefully as our new home builds data it will go up the search engines ratings, so post your useful content folks so those lost in cyberspace can stumble upon us.

I'm sure he wouldn't mind us going and borrowing it for re-printing here if MR ever returns. 

ChristophEar

RobDavies said:

I'm a bit miffed that the (estimated) hundreds of posts saying how great KaBL is, have completely disappeared.

I get emails from potential customers asking why they should buy my stuff, and I always used to point them in the direction of MR to get some idea of what KaBL is all about.

That sucks

One suggestion: if you do a search like this and then click the triangle next to results and click "cache" you can at least retrieve some of them, to copy and paste into your own testimonials document to send to customers.

digitalscream

ESBlonde said:

It's a real sham content like Nocasters pic laden thread on how to balance the new valves in his HRD have been lost. MR took the poster community for granted but in their defence they are a business and their primary income was paper based. If they realise the interwebs are the future (ironic name there) they will rebuild the forum and develope that as an income stream.

Hopefully as our new home builds data it will go up the search engines ratings, so post your useful content folks so those lost in cyberspace can stumble upon us.

The real irony is that the forums were taken down just as Future made the decision to concentrate more on their online content. Madness.

ICBM

Bellycaster said:

I only started using forums last year, MR and TGP(TGP first, I didn't know about MR then) but back then I thought I had found what was the English equivalent of TGP and was over the moon. I had no idea things could go that wrong, I guess I am ignorant to how things work on t'internet.

I am wondering now if TGP has suffered the same in the past, I don't know who runs that.

TGP was originally part of the PRS Forum, which PRS decided to close down. That might go some way to explaining the culture on there .

mike_l

stickyfiddle said:

RobDavies said:

I'm a bit miffed that the (estimated) hundreds of posts saying how great KaBL is, have completely disappeared.

I get emails from potential customers asking why they should buy my stuff, and I always used to point them in the direction of MR to get some idea of what KaBL is all about.

Bugger.

I'm sure we can work something out along the same lines here

There's a distinct pissabolity ........ ;-)

TTony

ChristophEar said:

 if you do a search like this and then click the triangle next to results and click "cache" you can at least retrieve some of them,

Is there any way to force it to display all the pages in an old thread?  I can get page 1 to show, but not all the subsequent pages in a long thread that I'd like to rescue ...

ICBM

Fretwired said:

Sporky said:

Fuck MR. They clearly don't value the forum, nor the enormous body of knowledge put together by the members. They wouldn't even tell us why they took the avatars away, for pity's sake.

I doubt they'll reopen the forum; they barely got it running in the first place.

+1

We should have done this year's ago ... MR was dying on it's feet anyway. I won't go back.

Nor me.

In hindsight there were so many annoying things about MR. It was only the community that made it bearable.

dindude

I don't think Future saw any value in the forum, and I also think something like this needed to happen to freshen things up. 

For example, the old MR forum wasnt fit for purpose in the sense that the Tech / Drums / Bass elements were woefully underpopulated, Future probably saw what was remaining was a small select group of guitarists who, and this is the worst bit for them, would regularly post how crap they thought Futures guitar based magazines were. There was barely a good word to go around. 

Imagine if the Bareknuckle forum regularly bashed the pickups, how long would it last? A forum tied to a business needs to have advocates, and there were none to be seen. Is it it any wonder they stopped developing and supporting it. But that's all history, this place is great, I wouldn't go back to MR.

Emp_Fab

Well, with regard to my forum, I'm not really sure what to do.  There's close to 5,000 posts on there and there's no simple way to migrate them over to here.  I've changed the forum title to "We've moved! - Please go to WWW.THEFRETBOARD.CO.UK" so that should hopefully stop people in their tracks.  I doubt anyone will actually use it now that this place is running, so I'll probably just leave it as it is for several months.  It will sort itself out.  Plus... there are hundreds of links that everyone has put up to redirect people looking for MR to my place.  If those links aren't changed then we may still get traffic via that route, so it makes sense to leave it on for the moment.

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VimFuego

well, I have no intention of going back to the old forums, but as I get slugs giving me lessons on how to grow a backbone, if everyone goes back I'll just follow the herd like the good little sheeple that I am.

oldBlueWolf

I got to like a lot of the MR forumites so ill be where they are. Ill miss MR only for the fact thats where I got to know them. The point that the powers that ran MR didn't give a toss for its users was noticed by me too :-(

digitalscream

@Emp_Fab - I'd leave it up there, to be honest. If ever we have a disaster (I seriously doubt we will - even if the worst happens, I can have this place up and running from the previous night's backup in half an hour or less), then your place would make a decent enough temporary abode to keep things ticking over.

monquixote

@Emp_Fab It might be worth locking the forums other than Offtopic (so people can post if there are problems) as a few people have popped up and posted without noticing that everyone else has gone.

Mick

Lock the boards for now, or make them viewable to admins/ mods only. Then add a redirect board pointing to TheFB, would be a solution. Assuming it has this feature.

EdGrip

I suggest that if and when MR returns, we put a post in the Classifieds section:

FT: New Music and Gear Classifieds Forum

...and otherwise generally throw lots of links to this place out there. We need to make sure that as many people as possible from MR can find this place. I'm only here because I eventually did a "MusicRadar forum down" Google search. I expect many people won't do that.

 - Ed

TTony

dindude said:

Future probably saw what was remaining was a small select group of guitarists who, and this is the worst bit for them, would regularly post how crap they thought Futures guitar based magazines were. There was barely a good word to go around. 

 

Your best customers are the ones who complain.

Taking the time to complain is usually an indication of some sort of interest/connection/commitment to the product about which you're complaining.  I accept that this isn't always the case (there are more than enough numpties out there) but it's true more often than not.

Engaging constructively with the complainant (a) makes them feel very happy and even more committed and (b) gives you a users-eye perspective on your product so you can fix the crap that's wrong with it.

Customers who don't care, just go elsewhere and you lose them without knowing that they've gone, and without capturing their views/opinions about why they've left.

Future created a perfect medium for that engagement - the forum.  Real-time multi-way communication with a bunch of genuine enthusiasts who had plenty of opinions to share.  Not easy for Future to deal with (ref comment about numpties, above), but they could have made more effort.  [edit] they could have made some effort.

 

streethawk

This place is miles better already, can't think of a single reason to go back on MR other than if everybody abandoned this place.

I can even post on here with my windows phone!

Emp_Fab

Right, I've edited everything, locked all the forums with the exception of the 'www.thefretboard.co.uk' sub-forum (which I've now moved to the top of the root) and stuck 'Read Only' notices everywhere.  Frankly, after all that, if you don't get that we have all migrated over here, then you need to have your keyboard taken off you.

monquixote

Emp_Fab said:

Right, I've edited everything, locked all the forums with the exception of the 'www.thefretboard.co.uk' sub-forum (which I've now moved to the top of the root) and stuck 'Read Only' notices everywhere.  Frankly, after all that, if you don't get that we have all migrated over here, then you need to have your keyboard taken off you.

Good work Emp