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HootsmonHootsmon Frets: 15960

not the guitar....MINE!

getting on a bit and beginning  to get some neck and temple pain from looking down at the guitar neck for hours at a time....any good post practice neck relief/exercise/stretching you can recommend?

many thanks

Victor the Giraffe

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  • johnnyurqjohnnyurq Frets: 1368
    Thai massuese, job done.

    Maybe she could sort your neck too whilst she is there. 

    ;)

    When I had a bad whiplash the physio told me the best thing is gently moving your neck to all the extremes a few times throughout the day and stopping for a few seconds at the extremes (up/down, side to side) seemed to work although it still gived grief and turns me into a neck monster at times.

    @Grunfeld is the dude to advise you better though as it is his profession.
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  • Stop staring at the board?

    make a conscious effort to play yours/their songs without looking at the board. you'll flubb all the time but you'll get there.

    I started learning all our tunes whilst actively not staring at the board.. was shockingly bad for a few days, then it felt very similar to touch typing. Only because some gig photos came back once and I looked like a bored out my skull on stage.

    after awhile a quick glance at the board here and there should be all.

    oh on my old guitar i used to use dents/dings in the neck as position markers..

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  • mike_lmike_l Frets: 5700

    Put something at eye level in front of you when you're practising.

    Currently I have the book I'm working through on a stand in front of me, which I consciously look at. Even when I'm just playing along with the CD, and it's the front cover.

    Maybe also try to loosen your neck up a bit.

    lean your head over to the left, then centre, then  right, front, then back, do this 3-4 times, then do a couple of circles so you're doing all of these in one smooth, slow motion. 

    Ringleader of the Cambridge cartel, pedal champ and king of the dirt boxes (down to 21) 

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  • vizviz Frets: 10690
    Play in front of a full length mirror
    Roland said: Scales are primarily a tool for categorising knowledge, not a rule for what can or cannot be played.
    Supportact said: [my style is] probably more an accumulation of limitations and bad habits than a 'style'.
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  • mike_lmike_l Frets: 5700

    Don't suggest that viz, he'll do it naked.......

    Ringleader of the Cambridge cartel, pedal champ and king of the dirt boxes (down to 21) 

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  • vizviz Frets: 10690
    Roland said: Scales are primarily a tool for categorising knowledge, not a rule for what can or cannot be played.
    Supportact said: [my style is] probably more an accumulation of limitations and bad habits than a 'style'.
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  • GrunfeldGrunfeld Frets: 4038
    edited October 2014
    johnnyurq said:

    @Grunfeld is the dude to advise you better though as it is his profession.
    Yeah but useful advice is often tricky though because people are such awkward buggers… they will insist on being individual and having particular problems. Best “neck” example I can think of for that was my own neck pain which I knew was computer related. I had everything set up “by the book”… correct heights and angles for chair, monitor, desk, mouse distance. One day I get a new chair and it’s “wrong” but I decide to leave it to the weekend. Result: no neck pain. Retest with official ergonomic measurements: neck pain. Back to “wrong” chair: no neck pain.

    So, there’s no recipe for everyone. You feel a neck and you might notice a movement being blocked by just a couple of little joints, so you loosen them up, and the patient is as right as ninepence. An exercise can never replicate that.

    Having said that, my “go to” exercise for the older neck is a combination of the movements of retraction and extension. These are often a bit limited. Tip: people tend to do them way too quickly. They don’t work if they’re done too quickly. There are probably examples on YT.  Yep, here's one (and NB the cautions mentioned in it.  They are important!) :



    @hootsmon — consider seeing a therapist, we do this stuff all the time and it might be something we can sort out quite easily.

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  • I get a sore back as I do tend to hunch..
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  • I get a sore back as I do tend to hunch..
    Your guitar is probably slung too low - bring it up a bit and watch everything improve :)
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  • mike_lmike_l Frets: 5700
    I get a sore back as I do tend to hunch..
    Your guitar is probably slung too low - bring it up a bit and watch everything improve :)

    He's not talking about playing guitar.......

    Ringleader of the Cambridge cartel, pedal champ and king of the dirt boxes (down to 21) 

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