BFD Oblivion

Drew_TNBD

Hey peeps,

So for the last few months one of the projects I've been working quite heavily on is a new expansion pack for BFD Eco/BFD2/BFD3 called BFD Oblivion:

www.fxpansion.com/bfdoblivion

Myself and Mike at the office recorded, edited, processed, and turned a Mapex Orion kit into a full product, and we also did the video inhouse too. Thought you might get a kick out of it, and I know there are a few users of BFD around here too who might otherwise miss this. Official announcements are going out today, but yeah... there ya go! That's what I be doing at the moment!

More kits are planned, so if you've got any requests or ideas, throw 'em at me.

ecc83

Awwww!

I thought it was a freebee! I have Eco.

Dave.

Drew_TNBD

Sorry Dave, no freebies this time

Clarky

interesting tom sizes for a rock / metal kit.. I'd have expected them to be a little bigger [although personally I like small toms]

Drew_TNBD

S'all about tuning. Those huge toms I tend to find can be too boomy for metal and rock imho. I'd rather a smaller tom but tuned lower. Big toms are better for funk and more 70's prog stuff imho.

ThePrettyDamned

Blimey, sounds immense. 

Are those recorded sounds in the video just 'from the box' so to speak, or tweaked in software? 

ThePrettyDamned

Also, dat delay.

Drew_TNBD

Drums-wise, all from the box. We didn't do any extra processing to get them to fit in the mix. The guitars and bass are all Axe FX II of course. Grooves were played by me on the in house TD-20.

The audio was mastered of course, but not to the point of killing everything. As a pack, it really does big and punchy out of the box, with no messing about.

ThePrettyDamned

Sounds boss, I could literally do with JUST that sound.  It could easily do hard rock, maybe a bit too heavy sounding for funk though.  

I'm hoping I get BFD soon.  Eco prolly. 

PolarityMan

Looks awesome, can you still get the most out of it in BFD2?

Drew_TNBD

Yup! Fully compatible with BFD2. With Eco you lose the crush channel, but everything else is fully compatible. Lots of layers too!

Clarky

loved the demo...

when I've finally fniished the album I'm working on, I'll start using BFD3 for the first time in anger... looking forward to it hugely

PolarityMan

Drew_fx said:

Yup! Fully compatible with BFD2. With Eco you lose the crush channel, but everything else is fully compatible. Lots of layers too!

And which do you think is the bigger gain in bang for buck terms if i had to pick one BFD3 upgrade or BFD oblivion?

monquixote

Ooo that sounds beefy. 

I don't do a lot of home recording these days, but I'd be getting a copy of BFD if I got back into it.

Drew_TNBD

PolarityMan said:

Drew_fx said:

Yup! Fully compatible with BFD2. With Eco you lose the crush channel, but everything else is fully compatible. Lots of layers too!

And which do you think is the bigger gain in bang for buck terms if i had to pick one BFD3 upgrade or BFD oblivion?

Oooof. That's putting me on the spot!

I'd say if you want beefy insto-gratification drums, then get Oblivion and stick with BFD2. If you want a bunch of well recorded but requiring processing drums, as well as the extra features like the a new browser, cymbal swell tech and simulated tom bleeds, then BFD3.

Personally - and speaking as just a user of BFD - I don't use half of what BFD3 does, and if it were custom-rolled software made just for me, I'd not have most of the deep features. I just want sick sounds, and Oblivion gives me that.

monquixote

So if you were the kind of person without the patience for fiddling do you think you'd be better off getting Eco and a couple of expansions?

ThePrettyDamned

monquixote said:

So if you were the kind of person without the patience for fiddling do you think you'd be better off getting Eco and a couple of expansions?

This is relevant. 

After decent sounding funk drums for programming, though programming takes forever. 

Drew_TNBD

monquixote said:

So if you were the kind of person without the patience for fiddling do you think you'd be better off getting Eco and a couple of expansions?

Perhaps. Eco has a limitation on the number of velocities it can use from the packs, and sometimes it is noticeable. I often want to do a middle version that has none of the mixing and deeper mapping stuff that BFD3 has, but all of the quality of the sounds. I lose that argument every time though!

PolarityMan

Drew_fx said:

PolarityMan said:

Drew_fx said:

Yup! Fully compatible with BFD2. With Eco you lose the crush channel, but everything else is fully compatible. Lots of layers too!

And which do you think is the bigger gain in bang for buck terms if i had to pick one BFD3 upgrade or BFD oblivion?

Oooof. That's putting me on the spot!

I'd say if you want beefy insto-gratification drums, then get Oblivion and stick with BFD2. If you want a bunch of well recorded but requiring processing drums, as well as the extra features like the a new browser, cymbal swell tech and simulated tom bleeds, then BFD3.

Personally - and speaking as just a user of BFD - I don't use half of what BFD3 does, and if it were custom-rolled software made just for me, I'd not have most of the deep features. I just want sick sounds, and Oblivion gives me that.

Simulated tom bleed can fuck off...why would I want a feature that makes it harder to mix?

I dont tweak much in BFD2, the cymbal swell stuff appeals though but I think we had a conversation about this already and it wasnt quite what i thought it was. I'd love if you could just drag a midi note out and it would swell up to the end point of that note then ring out. This is detecting quick retrieggers isnt it?

Drew_TNBD

Yeah the swell tech detects quick retriggers and incoming velocities in order to programatically fade and smear layers together. It works quite well!

Drew_TNBD

One of our users did a video. Skip to 6:20ish to hear the pack in a mix: