That whole stacked reverse+regular delay thing that I bang on about... (clips)

Drew_TNBD

@Samzadgan asked me about this today, so I thought I'd just throw some clips out.

First clip is from our track 'Wake':
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/630473/GearDemos/DrewTacoma_ReversedDualDelay.mp3

Second clip is from our track 'Black Iron Prison':
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/630473/GearDemos/Drew_BlackIronBreakdown.mp3

Effectively what I go for is a sort of Eventide 'crystals' effect but without the pitch shifting. So you get these undulations below the main guitar tone, and their strength kinda depends on how distorted the amp is. In the Wake clip, the amp is clean... in the BIP clip, the amp is set to a crunch without boost tone.

If you listen to the albums, you can hear I double tracked these parts. It particularly obvious with the BIP section, because the delays jump around the stereo field creating this wobbly almost dubsteppy kind of sound.

You can't get this effect with just one delay, because it requires the push and pull of the two delays. It doesn't work in parallel either, they have to be in series and the reverse delay has to go first.

So that's it really. Kind of obvious when you think about it.

Dave_Mc

That's pretty cool. You can definitely hear the sort of "push-pull" type thing going on with the repeats.

dano

That second track is great Drew @drewfx, definately given me an inspiration to get out a second delay pedal (and maybe a third and a fourth !) and have an experimentation this evening.

Did you have the repeat time on them set the same or double / half on the second ?

Drew_TNBD

Set just about the same Dano.

Paul_C

which pedals?

Drew_TNBD

Doesn't really matter to be honest. But it was a Hardwire DL-8 and a Line 6 DL-4 at the time of recording.

Jez6345789

Cool sound

samzadgan

only got to listen to those tracks today @drew_fx...on the wake song, it took me a while to hear the reverse delay..i guess when its stacked it washes it out a little, which is cool...i adds a lot of space to the sound.

alot more pronounced on the scond track...but again because its stacked it takes the edge of the weirdness. I like it.

In the times i've used it, its been reverse on its own, and i just didnt see the useability of it...but in the context of stacking, its pretty cool.

 

Drew_TNBD

Yup. Stacked for reals. I *never* use reverse delay on its own.

stickyfiddle

I must say, that sounds very good indeed. I sense an evening of delay-flavoured M9 fun coming on

Drew_TNBD

Tracks if you're interested in how it works in the context of a song:

http://bridgedisaster.co.uk/track/wake

http://bridgedisaster.co.uk/track/black-iron-prison

mike_l

Drew_fx said:

 I *never* use reverse delay on its own.

Why not?

Doesn't work for you/your material or just plain sounds bad?

Drew_TNBD

mike_l said:

Drew_fx said:

 I *never* use reverse delay on its own.

Why not?

Doesn't work for you/your material or just plain sounds bad?

Mainly because it never worked for our material in the past. Not averse to trying it in the future.

mike_l

Ah, cool. Thanks Drew, I think I'll have a play with the reverse on my DD-6 at some point, see what if I like it.

Drew_TNBD

mike_l said:

Ah, cool. Thanks Drew, I think I'll have a play with the reverse on my DD-6 at some point, see what if I like it.

Kinda want a DD6 for the warp feature!

littlegreenman

Drew_fx said:

Tracks if you're interested in how it works in the context of a song:

http://bridgedisaster.co.uk/track/wake

http://bridgedisaster.co.uk/track/black-iron-prison

Which reminded me @Drew_fx that I never did get around to buying Exegesis. Just bought the digipack from your Bandcamp site, downloading now and look forward to fondling your CD soon

And buying another delay!

Drew_TNBD

littlegreenman said:

Drew_fx said:

Tracks if you're interested in how it works in the context of a song:

http://bridgedisaster.co.uk/track/wake

http://bridgedisaster.co.uk/track/black-iron-prison

Which reminded me @Drew_fx that I never did get around to buying Exegesis. Just bought the digipack from your Bandcamp site, downloading now and look forward to fondling your CD soon

And buying another delay!

Appreciate it