Neck finishing for idiots.

Deadman

It's a shame you're not closer Loobs or I could shoot that mother for you in a jiffy.

Loobs

I'll be in Essex from Tuesday for two weeks

andypwudtone

Just want to clarify any misunderstanding here, Wudtone has four kits designed for maple necks. ( Also any of the other dye only kits are suitable for use on maple or other wood eg mahogany necks) .

The kits are two pack, tint coat and top coat. Apply tint coats until you have the intensity of colour ( 2-3 is usually enough).

Wudtone is a completely different product to Tru Oil in its elements and results. Tru Oil contains polymerised linseed oil. This is something we would not put into a product aimed at being tone friendly for any kind of musical instrument. 

 

Colourless

Original Vintage Yellow

Aged Vintage Yellow

Vintage Amber,  does have some colour attitude for the most smoke filled bar effect 

WezV

Take that tonal talk with a pinch of salt. Its not going to make a discernable difference here.

I will say that having used clear wudtone on a neck it was easy and worked well. I used the satin one on a neck I didn't want to be as sleek as I get with tru-oil. It was a headless guitar and I didn't want to drop it.

Having used various oil, lacquer and wudtone finishes on maple necks I honestly think thickness is more important than type of finish for both feel and tone

Deadman

Polymerised linseed oil affects tone?

jd0272

Deadman said:

Polymerised linseed oil affects tone?

God, do you know nothing? I have a 6yr old that knows this.

Off back to me shed..

WezV

Deadman said:

Polymerised linseed oil affects tone?

yeah, it has the word "poly" in it so that means it must be bad  

WezV

actually, like any finish, if its used inappropriately it will affect tone.

I used danish oil (another polymerised oil) on the top of an acoustic I made.  It killed it dead for about 6 months.   It just soaked into the spruce more than it should and took longer to cure because of it.   it was a bad choice for that application.   Guitar now sounds lovely - it just took a while to get there

Tru-oil doesn't ever soak in like that though.   I think andy's point is that it builds on the surface and can potentially stay softer for longer.   I actually agree with this .... if you use it that way.  I know some like to build it on the surface and use it as a lacquer but i don't - i like it super thin and really well worked into the wood.     

WezV

another I am using which could be built up on the surface is Eze-oil thanks to a little sample @gspbasses sent me.

Its a nice satin finish not unlike the wudtone natural.

works well over primary colour stains which, my wetsanded tru-oil never did due to the destructive nature of the wetsanding process

Deadman

jd0272;454366" said:

Deadman said:

Polymerised linseed oil affects tone?





God, do you know nothing? I have a 6yr old that knows this.

Off back to me shed..

:-<
22 years I was a spray painter. I may as well kill myself immediately.
In all seriousness, I don't want to ridicule Andywudtone. Its a genuine query.

jd0272

Deadman said:

jd0272;454366" said:

Deadman said:

Polymerised linseed oil affects tone?





God, do you know nothing? I have a 6yr old that knows this.

Off back to me shed..

:-<
22 years I was a spray painter. I may as well kill myself immediately.
In all seriousness, I don't want to ridicule Andywudtone. Its a genuine query.

I know it's genuine.

So, how'd you end it all anyway? Pills, knife, tall bridge, can I have your spray booth set up? Just sayin'....

I don't actually think it matters a rat's arse really. Give any 'named guitarist' a random guitar and they will sound like the 'any named guitarist' they are fabled for being. Be it plastic, organic, oil, or bare. Just depends on what ya want innit?

I have been drinking.

Loobs

Who is this wudtone character anyway?

Deadman

I'm off to have a bevvy.

jd0272

Deadman said:

I'm off to have a bevvy.

Yay! 

andypwudtone

Hi @WezV, I don't want to fall out and I'm not here to tell folks what they should or should not take with a pinch of salt. 

I will say I genuinely believe everything makes a difference as far as guitars are concerned and it really is up to the individual as to whether differences are discernible too. 

Polymerised Linseed OIl ( or stand oil as it is sometime known) is easy enough to research. 

Do that and a few phrases will keep leaping out. 

higher viscosity

excellent flexibility

more elastic coatings

tough, enamel-like, none-yellowing film.

is more elastic.

Given that thin and hard is a view shared by many as good. That should help you understand the reason we would not use Polymerised Linseed Oil in a product used with musical instruments if resonance and tone was a consideration. kind regards

Loobs

Deadman;454441" said:

I'm off to have a bevvy.

Wish I could!

Deadman

Loobs;454479" said:

[quote="Deadman;454441"]I'm off to have a bevvy.

Wish I could!
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Don't worry, it's only some crappy Bulmers that was festering at the back of the fridge. Still tastes pretty good though.

Deadman

jd0272;454457" said:

Deadman said:

I'm off to have a bevvy.





Yay! 

Shall we get mullered Jd?

jd0272

Deadman said:

jd0272;454457" said:

Deadman said:

I'm off to have a bevvy.





Yay! 

Shall we get mullered Jd?

Miles ahead of ya baby.

Deadman

I'm a dirty Darlo drinking bastard. I'll soon catch you