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A little while ago this Rickenbacker 4001 C64 reissue pickup was sent to me by a chain of music stores … ‘it needs a complete rewind’ they said  … they weren’t kidding!  When it came out of the bag I couldn’t see the actual parts amongst the  knotted ‘pillow’ of thousands of turns on wire. Apparently an abortive attempt to remove the cover, which is sadly part of the pickup itself … had led to the top flatwork coming off, and the bobbin literally exploding wire everywhere.

Below: held together for the pic!

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The first job was to determine the direction of wind … so I cut off as much of the tangled mess as I could with a pair of nail scissors … till I had some core turns visible.

image Once I’d sussed the wind direction … off came all the wire so I could get a good look at the bobbin. Interestingly enough, part of the reason the pickup came apart so easily may have been that the super glue ‘fillet’ that most maker apply to help keep the magnets in the flatwork while winding was missing entirely from some of poles, and had been done in a slapdash way on others. This wouldn’t have been a problem … apart from creating a weakness when the ‘modder’ had attempted to remove the ‘horseshoes’. 

After cleaning up the bobbin parts,  I reassembled it. There was no trace whatever of any wax potting … another reason the pickup came apart easily … but this made the re assembly job a little easier.  I always run some thin super glue around the joints where the magnets pass through the flatwork. The pressure created by the windings pushing outwards while winding is easily enough to deform the bobbins … and even burst the pickup apart without some belt and braces.

More in part 2 ....

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  • OilCityPickupsOilCityPickups Frets: 9984
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    Having no entries in my little black book of  specs for the 4001 pickup I had to use a little deviousness to determine how many turns of wire to put on the bobbin. Normally I could measure the resistance of a healthy pickup to copy it. Or if it was simply dead, put a pair of digital callipers across the narrow sides of the wound coil then simply wind till I made up the diameter. That approach wouldn’t work here. Luckily the tape wrapping had left a faint mark on the flatwork … so I had a rough ballpark coil size. I know Rickenbacker have always used super-thin 44awg wire … so knowing its resistance per foot … and the size of coil … and using some clever maths (actually I have a program on the computer to help with that) I came up with a figure of between 12 and 14k. Sounded fair enough so I tape wrapped the bobbin core to insulate the poles (another job Rickenbacker had missed out) after soldering the start of the 44awg wire to the little brass woodscrew that goes through the flatwork … jeez this pickup was is really crudely made, even Fender use brass eyelets

    The universal backing plate I designed for my pickup winding machine ‘Gloria’ will hold most common bobbins just with the spring loaded tail-stock (left of picture) engaged … however for the Rick bobbin I had to resort to a little double sided tape to help out.

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    44awg is a bit of a bitch to hand wind: being so delicate that a sneeze while guiding the turns by hand will snap the wire, or a heavy hand will stretch it … thus making it thinner and increasing its resistance.

    The final wound bobbin ready to reunite with the rest of the pickup. I decided to give it a quick 30 second wax dip … just to ‘fix’ the outer layers and avoid any nasty microphonic tendencies.

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    The customer was apparently very happy … as it worked out considerably cheaper than buying a new Rick pickup and the turnaround was around four hours! And I had more scrap wire to take to the recyclers.

    Moral of the story? Only try to take a pickup apart if you know what you are doing ...

     

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  • Adam_MDAdam_MD Frets: 3420
    I love pickup winding threads.
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  • OilCityPickupsOilCityPickups Frets: 9984
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    There's loads more in the pipeline ... just done a vintage P Bass rewind ... so that'll be featuring too. No point in having me here if I don't earn my keep :))
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  • mike_lmike_l Frets: 5700

    nice work fella.

    I ever-so-slightly jealous  that I can't do stuff like that (too delicate for my paws)

    Ringleader of the Cambridge cartel, pedal champ and king of the dirt boxes (down to 21) 

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  • OilCityPickupsOilCityPickups Frets: 9984
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    I severed several of the main tendons in my right hand when I was in my late teens ... bad mix of motorbikes, women and temper ... it stuffed my ability to fingerpick and lost sensation in my thumb. Believe me ... if I can do it you can.
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 71960
    You would think anyone who would buy a 4001 reissue on purpose, with the very expensive and unique Horseshoe pickup, would know that the poles are not a 'cover' and are not removable...

    Well done for resurrecting it!

    I think the brass screw terminals might be authentic to the original construction, although I'm not certain. It does sound like they should have glued the bobbin a bit better though - whether it would have made any difference given that some twit ripped it apart, I don't know.

    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

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  • OilCityPickupsOilCityPickups Frets: 9984
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    The story I was told was that the hapless 4001 owner loaned his bass to a mate ... and said mate tried to 'improve' it! I think that would be my grounds for un-friending :)

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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 71960
    I think that would be grounds for making said mate pay you the full cost of a new Rickenbacker Horseshoe pickup. (Even though you fixed it.) Yes, I do know how much they are!

    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

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  • mike_lmike_l Frets: 5700
    I severed several of the main tendons in my right hand when I was in my late teens ... bad mix of motorbikes, women and temper ... it stuffed my ability to fingerpick and lost sensation in my thumb. Believe me ... if I can do it you can.

    If only, I'm happy to do mechanical/engineer-y stuff, but electrics/electronics stump me. I'm happy to solder pups etc I, but that really is a bit too delicate for me.

    Ringleader of the Cambridge cartel, pedal champ and king of the dirt boxes (down to 21) 

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  • WezVWezV Frets: 16546
    very interested in this.   In my pile of "things to get around to one day" I have a Rickenbacher lapsteel that needs a horseshoe pickup

    i keep thinking about mocking up a dummy horseshoe and standard single coil  to get it up and running till the real thing finally falls into my lap(steel)
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  • OilCityPickupsOilCityPickups Frets: 9984
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    The iron horseshoes are very crudely made on the reissue ... to the point of being noticeably crooked ... and of course the modern  horseshoe (all post 1972 I believe) has a different a different magnetic structure from old classic  'horseshoes' (all magnetism these days comes from the polepieces and the shoes are more or less just for decoration ... though I suspect they add a little to the pickups inductance.
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