G5 vs G3(x?) vs ME-80

d8m

Potentially in the market for an all in one pedal board solution

meltedbuzzbox

You can get a G9.2tt second hand under £100 easily enough. 

That literally has everything and the kitchen sink

meltedbuzzbox

xmrchi

I have a GT 6 Brilliant Pedal,also up in the classfieds 

Bogwhoppit

The G3 x is quite a nice unit.  I'd like another 20 seconds on the looper, but that's being picky.

d8m

I'm constrained by Amazon vouchers to fund the purchase

d8m

Bogwhoppit;554028" said:

The G3 x is quite a nice unit.  I'd like another 20 seconds on the looper, but that's being picky.

How's the expression pedal on the G3 I haven't seen one in person but the pics make it look flimsy.

bingefeller

I used to have a Boss ME-80 and I currently own a Zoom MS100-BT. 

FWIW I found the modelling on the Zoom unit to sound better and more natural than the Boss.  I know this isn't the same Zoom unit you're after but I think that the modelling on the G3 and G5 units would sound better than the Boss ME-80. 

The Boss ME-80 does sound good, but I would choose Zoom over Boss personally. 

d8m

bingefeller;554100" said:

I used to have a Boss ME-80 and I currently own a Zoom MS100-BT. 

FWIW I found the modelling on the Zoom unit to sound better and more natural than the Boss.  I know this isn't the same Zoom unit you're after but I think that the modelling on the G3 and G5 units would sound better than the Boss ME-80. 

The Boss ME-80 does sound good, but I would choose Zoom over Boss personally. 

Just checked out the Ms-100.

Pretty neat looking for a single stomp!

How you finding it?

bingefeller

d8m said:

bingefeller;554100" said:

I used to have a Boss ME-80 and I currently own a Zoom MS100-BT. 

FWIW I found the modelling on the Zoom unit to sound better and more natural than the Boss.  I know this isn't the same Zoom unit you're after but I think that the modelling on the G3 and G5 units would sound better than the Boss ME-80. 

The Boss ME-80 does sound good, but I would choose Zoom over Boss personally. 

Just checked out the Ms-100.

Pretty neat looking for a single stomp!

How you finding it?

it's really good and there are loads of options for the way you can have the effects chain (way more than the Boss ME-80).  For example you can have two delays running at the same time.  You can also change cabinets and turn off cabinets and stuff like that.

Some of the effects use a lot of memory and you will get a "DSP full" message sometimes (some of the reverbs and delays cause this) but it's not an issue most times.  if you have an ipad or iphone there is a zoom stomp store where you can buy and get some free stomp boxes. 

d8m

It looks nice and compact but the G3 is only an extra 20 pounds so it's a bit of a no brainer!

close2u

I went from G3 to G3X

both great

expression pedal makes some difference but I don't use it to its full potential ... laziness rather than anything else

Bogwhoppit

The G3 x is quite a nice unit.  I'd like another 20 seconds on the looper, but that's being picky.

d8m said:

Bogwhoppit;554028" said:

The G3 x is quite a nice unit.  I'd like another 20 seconds on the looper, but that's being picky.

How's the expression pedal on the G3 I haven't seen one in person but the pics make it look flimsy.

Solid, I can stand on it without any concerns.

Branshen

The additional foot pedal on the G3X can be used as a volume pedal for swells or normal usage, foot pedal control for vibe, control for gain of a dirt pedal, wah (not sure if practical) and any other assignable parameter. the possibilities are endless. but I dont know if you would use them.

If you get the G3, it wont be possible to add an external expression pedal as well as tap tempo. it's down to you whether you need both at the same time. 

Fuzzdog

d8m said:

Bogwhoppit;554028" said:

The G3 x is quite a nice unit.  I'd like another 20 seconds on the looper, but that's being picky.

How's the expression pedal on the G3 I haven't seen one in person but the pics make it look flimsy.

Pretty horrible, in my experience - travel is very short!  I swapped from the G3X to the G3 with external pedal to save some board space, as there was no point having the onboard pedal if I wasn't using it.

Feels solid enough though, I'll give it that.

d8m

To be honest I'm not really a Wah user(no coordinated enough!) so if I did go for the G3 id stick to the standard one.

What about this beast:

Basically what I am after is something can run in front of my Blackstar and use it on the rare occasions I would like an effect on my sound.

Most of the time I just play the amp on its dirty and clean channels.

As long as the G3 isn't going to make my thru sound sound awful then it looks like a winner!

Branshen

G3 is much more versatile than the Digitech RP stuff. The RP can only have one instance of a type of effect on. So no dual delays, or multiple drives. 

I used to use an RP255, G3 is alot better IMHO.

close2u

Go for the G3

Bogwhoppit

Branshen said:

The additional foot pedal on the G3X can be used as a volume pedal for swells or normal usage, foot pedal control for vibe, control for gain of a dirt pedal, wah (not sure if practical) and any other assignable parameter. the possibilities are endless. but I dont know if you would use them.

 

I tend to use it on the vibe to control the speed. It has many possible use's if you're into experimental ambient stuff, all of which are easily assignable.

 

One gripe I do have is the output mode. If you use direct out it sounds very harsh, instead I use the 'combo front end setting' when going direct into the desk / PA to take the fizz out.

Beexter

d8m said:

To be honest I'm not really a Wah user(no coordinated enough!) so if I did go for the G3 id stick to the standard one.

What about this beast:

Basically what I am after is something can run in front of my Blackstar and use it on the rare occasions I would like an effect on my sound.

Most of the time I just play the amp on its dirty and clean channels.

As long as the G3 isn't going to make my thru sound sound awful then it looks like a winner!

I've got the RP500, the G3, an MS50 and an MS70CDR.....they each have their strengths. The Digitech has an auxillary in which makes it very handy for playing along to backing tracks and the built in expression pedal is convenient. It is easy to adjust on the fly and sounds pretty good. The models all sound pretty good - I've gigged with it straight to the PA with good results. The single- stomp sized zooms are brilliant - I run 2 on my board - the MS50 sits in the loop of an EHX Superego and the MS70-CDR handles most of my delay. reverb and modulation needs. They sound great. The G3 is much more compact than the RP500 and I'm still learning it as it is a fairly new addition but I like the looper function and built in drums - should make a good practise tool although I need to find the right headphones for it 'cos so far, I don't like the sound of it through the headphones I have.

If you're looking for a pedalboard solution, I'd say either the G3 or RP500 as they give you a bit more flexibility to turn individual effects on or off with the extra footswitches. I don't think you could go wrong with either. If you want access to 2 delays or 2 drives in one patch, it has to be the G3 'cos the RP500 can't do that.

d8m

G3 incoming!