CAGED Major and Minor Shapes

Jetfire

Hs any one got a quick ref guide to which of the major shapes tally up with the minor shapes?

richh

Not sure, but if you haven't got it already, the 'Fretboard Logic' book is really good.

close2u

Jetfire said:

Hs any one got a quick ref guide to which of the major shapes tally up with the minor shapes?

Your question is slightly unclear.

You do mention CAGED and chord shapes so maybe this is relevant...

http://thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/2990/

http://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/16903/

close2u

You did ask a similar question previously ...

http://thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/17984/

Is your question different this time?

Can you be more specific?

Jetfire

My question is based around the major and relative minor shapes using the CAGED system. Each of the Major CAGED shapes would have a relative minor shape, if what I have learnt so far is correct. What I was looking for what a quick guide to say "X major shape is also the X minor shape" etc.

 

 

 

close2u

Okay, just use the Major scale Forumla.

Tone, Tone, Semitone, Tone, Tone, Tone, Semitone

I, ii, iii, IV, V, vi, vii

Whole, Whole, Half, Whole, Whole, Whole, Half

The relative minor is always based off the 6th of the Major scale.

Remember, each letter is used once and once only in naming the notes / chords.

So, for example, starting at A, we have

A, B, C, D, E, F, G

BUT

Using the formula, they are actually:

A, B, C#, D, E, F#, G#

A, Bm, C#m, D, E, F#m, G#dim

F#min is the relative minor of A Major.

It is based on the 6th note from the A Major scale.

Does that help?

Jetfire

No, I know about all that but its just the direct relationships between the CAGED shapes.

close2u

Jetfire said:

No, I know about all that but its just the direct relationships between the CAGED shapes.

Mmmh.

Okay.

Well the 5 scale shapes are the 5 scale shapes.

No matter which 'mode' you are playing.

If you want to play the relative minor of A Major, which as seen above is F#minor, then you only need the CAGED shapes.

BUT

Your root note - your start and end note for practicing the scale, your 'tonal centre' all shifted.

And the intervals are shifted also.

You can play the 5 CAGED shapes in the exact same neck locations as the A Major scale but start on the 6th note of the pattern, the F# note and listen for the different tonal centre, intervals etc. Use chord tones and arpeggios to make those differences stand out.

Note, the relative minor is also found three frets below or nine frets above the Major.

GuyBoden

I agree, you just have to learn each Major's relative minor.

C Major has A Minor relative minor, so use the C Major CAGED shapes for your A minor shapes.

G Major has E minor relative minor, so use the G Major CAGED shapes for your E minor shapes.

F Major has D minor relative minor, so use the F Major CAGED shapes for your D minor shapes. etc.....................

IMHO, fretboard shapes and patterns are not very useful, if you don't learn the note intervals and the note names.