Attack of the Mad Axe-son. Feline Guitars fixing a Schenker Flying V

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edited July 2015 in Made in the UK
A guitar in need of the Guitar Doctor(Doctor)

Michael Schenker's son Tyson brought in one of his Vs for some much needed attention. 
The guitar was a gift from his father and Tyson has owned it for the best part of 10 years.
The guitar had suffered a few injuries from all the travelling it had done 
We knew we had a few things to do, but more issues reared their head and we agreed to do everything needed to make it work again, and maybe better than it ever had before.

Tyson was happy for us to share the workflow with you as it looked like it would be an involved job.

Tyson has two V's . The baby one was a present given to him when he accompanied his father on a MSG world tour as a child and the other is his full size V that was a gift from his father and it is that guitar we will be dealing with this time.

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I think the writing under the truss rod cover saying Schenker #1 lets me know who this guitar belongs to.

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Unfortunately the neck to body join had sustained a break that hadn't been dealt with. There was a small degree of flex which suggested that there was a break in the tenon inside. We were going to have to break the neck out to get a chance to fix it up properly.
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Earlier we popped the frets out, as once we are done we will definitely need to relevel the board and refret this beast.
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OK - getting the neck out was a bit of a task but we got there . 
We were a bit busy and didn't get any pics of that process but there was a lot of effort and a few swear words too.


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Stockist of Earvana nuts, BKP, Oil City And Monty's pickups. Sperzel, Tonepros, Gotoh and Graphtech too!
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  • FelineGuitarsFelineGuitars Frets: 4245
    Think I'll use this opportunity to true up the 12" fingerboard radius, as it's easier to handle it out of the body.image

    You can easily see the areas quickly touched by the radiusing beam, and those areas that we still need to keep sanding to reach. This process will prove to be very worthwhile to the final result.
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    Ok - we have the whole board levelled and radiussed to a 12" camber. But we do want to add a little fallaway and compound radiussing at the top end so we can set the action low and still have the upper regions of the neck play without rattle and allow silky smooth string bends
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  • martmart Frets: 2149
    Looking forward to seeing the rest of this!
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  • FelineGuitarsFelineGuitars Frets: 4245
    edited July 2015
    We've elevated one end of the neck and it makes it easy to get the higher fret areas to taper away just the right amount.

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    And here we go - lovely fallaway and now I just need to blend the two areas
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    All sanded and smoothed up to 2000 grit - much smoother than they do at the Gibson factory.

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  • FelineGuitarsFelineGuitars Frets: 4245

    Ooh - silky, shiny wood!
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    Glued a chipped out piece of the tenon back on.
    There is still part of the tenon firmly stuck in the body rebate, which will be good to help align the neck perfectly again.

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    Not pretty , but it mates perfectly with the body , so looking forward to getting a good glue joint.

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    Surfaces all clean and ready to take fresh glue. We had to remove any traces of the old glue as we want a good wood to wood joint.

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  • FelineGuitarsFelineGuitars Frets: 4245

    We found the piece that was always loose in the body pocket and firmly reglued it back before proceeding with our body to neck repair.
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    And there she goes back together in a dry run before we glue her properly. I think we'll use a shaped radius block against the fingerboard to firmly hold that down when we glue her back together.


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    The pickguard with a pair of Seymour Duncan Alnico 2 pro humbuckers (again a present from Schenker senior). The guitar came in with failing electrics so we'll see what she needs to get her going.
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    Right - this is where the original problem was (all fixed up now).
    Firstly - why do Gibson and Fender put such faith in the components being earthed simply from their contact with a flimsy bit of foil under a pickguard (or a metal control plare with fender). As soon as the guitar gets dirty or things come loose everything loses it's earth path and cuts out. A proper soldered wire is what was neede... See More


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    We now added some screening paint - a layer of nickel that will help keep noise and interference away from the pickups and wiring harness.

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  • FelineGuitarsFelineGuitars Frets: 4245

    Neck all glued in and solid - Tyson asked us not to go too made touching in the chips as he kind of likes the distressed look of the guitar - says it suits him and also it tells a story of the life the guitar has had.
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    When we cut the fretwire , we remove the tang for a small portion at each end . The wire is cut overlong and the tang is cut to exactly the width of the fingerboard or maybe just a whisker under. This means that we don't have tang sticking out the sides of the neck.

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    Here is the rack of wire being prepared

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    Stockist of Earvana nuts, BKP, Oil City And Monty's pickups. Sperzel, Tonepros, Gotoh and Graphtech too!
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  • FelineGuitarsFelineGuitars Frets: 4245

    you can see as we lie the fretwire on the neck that the tang is just long enough for the width of the fingerboard. The ends of the overhang will be pushed firmly down and then trimmed when the wire is installed

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    For the main part of the fretboard we will use a mix of the fret press and a trusty hammer(mainly for the ends)

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    So here we go - most of the main part of the board is done. We will now have to switch to one of ouur other presses as the arbor press starts to risk fouling the body joint.

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    Stockist of Earvana nuts, BKP, Oil City And Monty's pickups. Sperzel, Tonepros, Gotoh and Graphtech too!
    Expert guitar repairs and upgrades - fretwork our speciality! www.felineguitars.com.  Facebook too!

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    For the main part of the fretboard we will use a mix of the fret press and a trusty hammer (mainly for the ends)
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    So here we go - most of the main part of the board is done. We will now have to switch to one of ouur other presses as the arbor press starts to risk fouling the body joint.
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    We pulled out one of our other specialised presses - known as Jaws 3 (the sequel). 
    This can be fixed to the neck and can apply downward pressure to the fret to fix in the slot 
    (We ALWAYS use glue as well).
    The brass former holds down at the correct radius and we can increase the pressure on this to ensure proper seating of the fret, although the hammer gets things started .
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    Many guitars have a re-sale value. Some you'll never want to sell.
    Stockist of Earvana nuts, BKP, Oil City And Monty's pickups. Sperzel, Tonepros, Gotoh and Graphtech too!
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    An aeriel view of Jaws 3 doing it's work
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    All the frets are now in, neatly seated and glued in place.
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    Stockist of Earvana nuts, BKP, Oil City And Monty's pickups. Sperzel, Tonepros, Gotoh and Graphtech too!
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    The fret ends are still quite square and will need the faces blending in with the sides so that they are smooth to the touch.image

    we use a specially modified swiss needle file with a very fine cut to round in the corners of the wire. The sides of the file have been smoothed tomake them safe and no longer cut, although we still mask alongside the fret to be worked to protect the wood.
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    Here we go with the ends rounded in , so that only a triangular facet shows outwards. This will be further smoothed after we do the fret dressing.
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    Many guitars have a re-sale value. Some you'll never want to sell.
    Stockist of Earvana nuts, BKP, Oil City And Monty's pickups. Sperzel, Tonepros, Gotoh and Graphtech too!
    Expert guitar repairs and upgrades - fretwork our speciality! www.felineguitars.com.  Facebook too!

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  • FelineGuitarsFelineGuitars Frets: 4245
    To dress the frets perfectly we use the Dane Erlewine designed neck jig that was available from StewMac. We were early adopters of this method and this jig dates back over 15 years to the late 90s.
    It allows us to simulate string tension on the neck and level the frets perfectly under the same conditions it will be under when the neck is fully strung
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    Frets are now all dressed, recrowned and polished and the guitar is ready to be rerassembled.

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    On go the strings
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    We installed an Earvana nut that will improve the intonation and how in tune the guitar sounds.
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    The evidence of the previous neck damage can still be seen - we didn't touch this part of the guitar at all
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    Pleased witrh the strength of the redone neck joint. I would have liked to and done some refinishing , but Tyson favoured the beaten up/reliced look
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    Stockist of Earvana nuts, BKP, Oil City And Monty's pickups. Sperzel, Tonepros, Gotoh and Graphtech too!
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  • FelineGuitarsFelineGuitars Frets: 4245
    And the front of the guitar - all "Ready To Rock"

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    A view of the rear
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    Tyson collected the guitr and spent time playing her and was really happy with the action , playability and sound.

    Got a message a few days later from Tyson : 
    "Guitar is awesome. Thanks again"

    A good outcome!

    Many guitars have a re-sale value. Some you'll never want to sell.
    Stockist of Earvana nuts, BKP, Oil City And Monty's pickups. Sperzel, Tonepros, Gotoh and Graphtech too!
    Expert guitar repairs and upgrades - fretwork our speciality! www.felineguitars.com.  Facebook too!

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  • Awesome work.

     

    ... and the fact you have such high profile clients... speaks volumes about the quality of your work.

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  • EricTheWearyEricTheWeary Frets: 6035
    Excellent read. :)
    I feel the warm, healing, liquid presence of God’s genuine cold-filtered grace. 
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  • BucketBucket Frets: 6568
    Awesome. :)
    - "Health and family are the top two most important things. Followed by outrageous guitar solos." - thomasross20
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  • richhrichh Frets: 224
    Lovely job, very impressive!
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  • FelineGuitarsFelineGuitars Frets: 4245
    thanks chaps

    Many guitars have a re-sale value. Some you'll never want to sell.
    Stockist of Earvana nuts, BKP, Oil City And Monty's pickups. Sperzel, Tonepros, Gotoh and Graphtech too!
    Expert guitar repairs and upgrades - fretwork our speciality! www.felineguitars.com.  Facebook too!

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  • oldfoxyoldfoxy Frets: 10
    Another epic rebuild story. Love reading these, brilliant
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  • randomhandclapsrandomhandclaps Frets: 20432

    Usual awesome Feline work there.

    I like Tyson.  I used to play with Tracey Hunter and at the time he was in a band called Audio Cartel with Jesse Hunter.  I don't know if they're still going...off to Google

    My muse is not a horse and art is not a race.
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  • xmrchixmrchi Frets: 2804
    You are a true artist, im not just saying that as a throw away comment, the time and dedication to get to your level of skill must have been a life long crusade.

    One day I will own a Feline, and that day my gas will stop.
    Well done.
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  • GassageGassage Frets: 18719
    Great thread Jonathan.

    Donald Trump has spoken movingly about 7-Eleven. It reminded him, he said, of the way Americans came together in 1941 after Pearl Necklace.

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  • TTonyTTony Frets: 11829
    Wow - proper craftsman at work there, and (I imagine) probably enjoying his work.

    Thanks for sharing with us @FelineGuitars.
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  • Jez6345789Jez6345789 Frets: 711
    Very nice 
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  • breadfanbreadfan Frets: 179
    Lovely stuff!

    Thanks for sharing!

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  • Utterly amazing. I'd love to be a fly on the wall for a day there.
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  • PlukkyPlukky Frets: 264
    Cool stuff - thanks
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  • drwiddlydrwiddly Frets: 248
    Fantastic! Thanks for sharing.
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