How many people don't own or use a tuner?

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  • p90foolp90fool Frets: 4764
    Rocker said:
     The chances of two guitars being perfectly tuned was slight, three guitars virtually nil.
    This is a lot of the reason I used to play in power trios. Perfect tuning between one guitar and a bass is not nearly so important.

    We used to start all our gigs with me holding an A tuning fork over a pickup :)
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  • 57Deluxe57Deluxe Frets: 3070
    ...me - for years... well that is, cos I only ever played along to LPs and they were always all over the place with tunings and mix speeds, so I winged it...

    But when I first started out I used to have an older wiser Bass playing mate that would come round each Monday night to tune my guitar for me. He started me off in open E which was great! but when he decided was time to step up to concert E I got a bit less bombastic.

    I bet then there could have been a few quid in being a mobile guitar tuner-upper...??!

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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 20301
    Rocker said:
    So if you don't have an electronic tuner, get one. And use it every time you pick up a guitar to play.
    If you're not playing in public there's absolutely no reason to use one, in fact it's much better to learn to tell when the guitar is in tune by ear. If you use a tuner *every time you play*, you won't develop that necessary skill as easily.
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • p90foolp90fool Frets: 4764
    ICBM said:
    Rocker said:
    So if you don't have an electronic tuner, get one. And use it every time you pick up a guitar to play.
    If you're not playing in public there's absolutely no reason to use one, in fact it's much better to learn to tell when the guitar is in tune by ear. If you use a tuner *every time you play*, you won't develop that necessary skill as easily.
    I'm not sure I agree with this.
    Obviously an ability to tune your guitar by ear is essential, but I also think that if you only ever play a perfectly tuned guitar your ears get used to it and can tell instantly when it's out.

    We electric guitar players are lucky in some ways in that string bending and vibrato requires excellent pitch sensitivity. We're not just painting by numbers like a pianist can, so we're naturally training ourselves while we're playing, just like a violinist or singer does.

    I'm constantly working on the subtleties of tiny increments of pitch in my playing, but still make myself wince fairly often!
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 20301
    p90fool said:
    Obviously an ability to tune your guitar by ear is essential, but I also think that if you only ever play a perfectly tuned guitar your ears get used to it and can tell instantly when it's out.
    I've come across quite a few players who actually can't tell whether they're in tune or not without a tuner, because they always use one.
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • GuitarseGuitarse Frets: 144
    edited August 2015
    A tuner will get your open strings in tune, then you have to tune the guitar to itself, so you cannot solely rely on them. Never understand why some people leave the tuner on the headstock whilst playing. It looks silly. To me, anyway.
    Never ever bloody anything, ever!
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  • p90foolp90fool Frets: 4764
    ICBM said:
    p90fool said:
    Obviously an ability to tune your guitar by ear is essential, but I also think that if you only ever play a perfectly tuned guitar your ears get used to it and can tell instantly when it's out.
    I've come across quite a few players who actually can't tell whether they're in tune or not without a tuner, because they always use one.
    I honestly doubt that the tuner is the reason. They may be just shit.
    :)

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  • SassafrasSassafras Frets: 6881
    I've known of people with very strange ideas of what's in tune.
    A friend had a shop that sold a few guitars, someone would come in, take a perfectly tuned guitar down and then retune it to their own mangled idea of in tune, rendering said guitar painfully out of tune. And I'm not talking of alternative tunings, I'm talking of not a clue tunings.
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  • slackerslacker Frets: 527
    p90fool said:
    ICBM said:
    p90fool said:
    Obviously an ability to tune your guitar by ear is essential, but I also think that if you only ever play a perfectly tuned guitar your ears get used to it and can tell instantly when it's out.
    I've come across quite a few players who actually can't tell whether they're in tune or not without a tuner, because they always use one.
    I honestly doubt that the tuner is the reason. They may be just shit.
    :)


    That is an option. I've seen people use a tuner and then play sharp because they pull on  the strings.
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  • ReverendReverend Frets: 809
    I rarely use them at home but then fi d that over a month or so the tuning has drifted a half tone or so.
    Essential for live. Our bassist claimed he didn't need one as he said once he was in tune his bass didn't go out. He was wrong.
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  • jamesjames Frets: 4
    I tune by ear in the orchestra, but in my band or in big band, a tuner is a must. I use a little polytune that sits at the bottom of my music stand or on my small pedalboard. 

    We played a joint gig, orchestra and big band, on an outdoor stage last week. Before the orchestra finished, the bassist and I snuck on stage to do a final tune. With her amp turned off, she was trying to tune it by ear, about 2 metres away from the brass section.

    I was kind and passed my tuner over 
    :)
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  • I couldn't go without one - I also can't be dealing with guitars that can't stay in tune. That will ruin it for me. 
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  • I bought a Matrix tuner in the late eighties and recently bought another (from Amazon USA for $25) as a back up because, with the exception of the Boss tuner, there are few analogue tuners left. I much prefer a needle to flashing LEDs. 

    I can tell when a guitar is out of tune because I know from using a tuner what a tuned guitar should sound like. Tune by ear? Nope, can't do that, at least not with the accuracy of a tuner.

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  • MotorhateMotorhate Frets: 75
    I must admit, over the years I've not gone to gigs or rehearsals without one for months on end. Now I've invested in a pedal and a hand held Korg. There really isn't any excuse, they're so cheap.
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  • Jack_Jack_ Frets: 568
    Now you just need a forum tuner for ironing out those bumps.
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  • VoxmanVoxman Frets: 946
    ICBM said:
    Philly_Q said:

    I can't really see why anyone who plays live would not have a tuner. 

    It's not as if they're hugely expensive or some kind of massive inconvenience.  Stick one on your pedalboard, if you don't have a pedalboard get one of those clip-on things.  Insisting on not having one just seems like Luddism.

    It depends what you mean by 'playing live'. If I do an open mic I prefer not to use a tuner. I find it more irritating watching someone staring at a tuner for twenty or thirty seconds while no sound comes out than it is to hear a quick check of the guitar by ear, which is much more useful to let people know why you haven't started yet :).
    The tuners built into my Vox gear let you tune with or without sound - best of both worlds.  I'm sure there are lots of other tuners out there that do the same.  
    I started out with nothing..... but I've still got most of it left (Seasick Steve)
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  • VoxmanVoxman Frets: 946
    edited January 12
    Duplicate post (caused by Board slowdown)
    I started out with nothing..... but I've still got most of it left (Seasick Steve)
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  • Guitar - Amp - tuner the three essentials.  Always told students the biggest one off improvement you can make to your playing is buy a tuner.

    i play in a band with a singer who know knocks out a few few power chords in a few of the songs.  He hadnt got a tuner - it drove me and the rest of the band mad - so we bought him one - result band and musical harmony. 
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 20301
    Guitar - Amp - tuner the three essentials.  Always told students the biggest one off improvement you can make to your playing is buy a tuner.

    i play in a band with a singer who know knocks out a few few power chords in a few of the songs.  He hadnt got a tuner - it drove me and the rest of the band mad - so we bought him one - result band and musical harmony. 
    That's true - but getting a tuner is only half (or a third) of the story… you also have to know how to string and tune a guitar properly so it *stays* in tune, and how to play it so it *sounds* in tune even when the open strings actually are. I've been in bands with people who managed the tuner bit but not one (or both) of the other two, and it still sounded horrendous :).
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • ICBM said:
    Guitar - Amp - tuner the three essentials.  Always told students the biggest one off improvement you can make to your playing is buy a tuner.

    i play in a band with a singer who know knocks out a few few power chords in a few of the songs.  He hadnt got a tuner - it drove me and the rest of the band mad - so we bought him one - result band and musical harmony. 
    That's true - but getting a tuner is only half (or a third) of the story… you also have to know how to string and tune a guitar properly so it *stays* in tune, and how to play it so it *sounds* in tune even when the open strings actually are. I've been in bands with people who managed the tuner bit but not one (or both) of the other two, and it still sounded horrendous :).
    I would agree with that! 
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  • Strat54Strat54 Frets: 101
    We'll blame Chuck Berry......
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  • StuckfastStuckfast Frets: 11
    I know it's an unpopular opinion in some quarters but I'm a huge fan of the Tronical Tune / Gibson G force system. It seems like a natural next step forward from using a digital tuner, except that it's often quicker, and you don't need to think about it so much (which is important if, for instance, you want to talk to an audience while tuning). And the machine heads have very low gearing so manual fine-tuning is actually much easier than on most conventional guitars.

    Having said that, what always gets my goat is the number of people who blindly follow what their tuner tells them, then don't check by ear afterwards.

    There are also some pitfalls associated with digital tuners. One is that some tunings just don't sound right in equal temperament. I play a lot in DADGAD and will always tune the G string by ear so that when fretted at the second fret it forms a perfect fifth with the D below it and a unison with the A above it. For that to be the case it has to be slightly sharp of concert pitch.

    Another thing I've come across before is bass players who diligently tune their instruments to concert pitch, but when they're actually playing, attack the instrument so hard that every note comes out a quarter tone sharp.
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  • richardhomerrichardhomer Frets: 11285
    When I gigged regularly, I had one of those old grey plastic, hand-held Korg tuners with a 'VU' style meter at the top. 

    My guitar was tuned about five minutes prior to playing - after which, is was tweaked on the fly, by ear - usually while playing.

    My main stage guitar held its tuning particularly well, so the lack of a tuner during a gig never presented a problem.
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  • Dave_VaderDave_Vader Frets: 127
    Once dropped my SG off the back of a flatbed lorry stage - electronically retuned it (amazingly the headstock was still attached, probably because it was a Yamaha not a Gibson) without hearing it, and realised inside the first three chords of the first song that my G was an octave lower than it should be - sounded huge and lovely until it got to the solo....

    Moral - check it through the amp as well before you start (if you've done something stupid)
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  • usedtobeusedtobe Frets: 1421
    My ears are pretty shagged, these days. I couldn't even contemplate playing without a tuner.
     so if you fancy a reissue of a guitar they never made in a colour they never used then it probably isn't too overpriced.

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  • SNAKEBITESNAKEBITE Frets: 325
    p90fool said:
    ICBM said:
    p90fool said:
    Obviously an ability to tune your guitar by ear is essential, but I also think that if you only ever play a perfectly tuned guitar your ears get used to it and can tell instantly when it's out.
    I've come across quite a few players who actually can't tell whether they're in tune or not without a tuner, because they always use one.
    I honestly doubt that the tuner is the reason. They may be just shit.
    :)


     You called?
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  • BlueingreenBlueingreen Frets: 496
    edited January 12
    I'm old enough to have started playing before electronic tuners were available, at least to ordinary musicians, so it was all by ear.  I still remember the first time I saw a band using electronic tuners - Joe Jackson in Glasgow.  While listening to them it suddenly dawned on me that it was probably the first time I'd heard a rock band sound in tune.
    "Mrs Thatcher set out to create a country in the image of her father and ended up creating one in the image of her son." Peregrine Worsthorne.

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  • grungebobgrungebob Frets: 650
    I only own one pedal and it's a tuner 
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  • I have a TU-2 on my board that was my second-ever tuner pedal (my first was a plastic-switched Fender one that broke quickly); I have used it regularly since 2002 and it refuses to give up; which is unfortunate as I don't actually like it very much. 

    I considered taking it off the board as I currently have a line6 M5 which has a built in tuner/mute, but somehow it felt weird not having the comfort of that white brick at the start of my signal chain for easy tune-ups and signal muting.
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