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  • JezWyndJezWynd Frets: 2124
    edited September 2015

    Sassafras said:
    /\ Not a bad idea /\
    A very good idea. Actually there's a new Vox practise amp out that might fit the bill.

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  • TTonyTTony Frets: 14030
    Skodadad said:
    I think I have set my mind on the Yamaha.
    I believe that there's a new model due out soon (isn't there always), so keep an eye out for old stock being shifted at good prices, or more s/h ones appearing FS.

    My wife used to "mention" the previous amp that I had tucked away, unobtrusively, in a corner of the room.  The THR10 is sat on a coffee table in the middle of the room, and doesn't get mentioned at all.
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  • As I said, I love my THR10 & the fact that it's always out in the living room means I'm more likely to use it.
    This is the video that convinced me to get one. Soren actually tells you the settings he's using to get each sound- I just need to learn to play like him now!

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  • seany65seany65 Frets: 234
    @skodadad, I personally would suggest using your amp clean and trying to get an acousticy sound and just practicing the basic chords and playing notes etc. When you're used to how your leccy guitar feels when playing and you can play it to the same sort of standard as your acoustics, I would then start faffing about with effects and overdrive etc.

    Also, playing without effects and overdrive should allow you to hear the notes of the chords a little better. If you still can't, up the treble a tidge, or cut the bass/mids a tidge, maybe that'll help. If not then you may have to use 'power chords', wich are chords with fewer notes in them. There's plenty of info abouthem in books and elsewhere.
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  • JezWyndJezWynd Frets: 2124

    As I said, I love my THR10 & the fact that it's always out in the living room means I'm more likely to use it.
    This is the video that convinced me to get one. Soren actually tells you the settings he's using to get each sound- I just need to learn to play like him now!

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vWjUVQbHLnM
    ^^ The THR10 in that clip sounds lacking in bass or presence. I'm surprised, I've read nothing but good about these and this is the first time I've heard one.

    Perhaps a full on electric and a Pathfinder 15R might work for OP. Pathfinder15Rs are getting pricey and there's a reason - built in tremolo, spring reverb and an 8" speaker they sound really nice. Lacking furniture appeal though.

    06.15 onward in the clip above shows the apparent depth of the THR amp - seems to lack something imo. But then it's a practise amp, so perhaps it doesn't need to.
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  • Ok guys I can't thank you enough, I just bought a Thr 10 x and WOW! What a difference, I am gobsmacked! I know the x isn't the ideal one for me so I may try and trade it for a standard thr 10 but already this is the single investment that has made a difference. Again many many many thanks to all!
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  • TTonyTTony Frets: 14030
    Would you like us to give you a list of the guitars & pedals you need to buy next?

    ;)
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  • TTony said:
    Would you like us to give you a list of the guitars & pedals you need to buy next?

    ;)
    We could be here for some time,  It will be a long list.

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  • TTony said:
    Would you like us to give you a list of the guitars & pedals you need to buy next?

    ;)
    That's easy: Gibson & Yamaha guitars, Marshall & Vox amplifiers. Natch, you need to be a bit picky, but I've never really seen the point of anything else except for budgets
    "Working" software has only unobserved bugs. (Parroty Error: Pieces of Nine! Pieces of Nine!)
    Seriously: If you value it, take/fetch it yourself
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  • I think I'm OK for this month, I'm already over budget :) maybe some advice on the cheapest strat worth considering though lol. Also I have a vintage pair of mighty mite pickups, am wondering if I should swap them into one of present guitars?
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  • TTonyTTony Frets: 14030
    Skodadad said:
    Also I have a vintage pair of mighty mite pickups, am wondering if I should swap them into one of present guitars?
    Put them on a meter first - check that they're still working OK (before you solder them into anything).
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  • They are definitely working, they came out of another guitar I purchased in error for far more than it was worth. I swapped them before I sold it on.

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  • SamgbSamgb Frets: 619
    A Vintage V6 Icon strat could be had used on EBay for about £100. Got mine for 80. Bargain.
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  • Fender Squire Strat  loads very cheap on eBay and not much more new.  If you can push your budget to a Classic Vibe Squire you will have a very nice guitar.

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  • GruGru Frets: 336
    I was just about to praise the THR10 or 5 in its various guises.

    On the 'X' I would personally hover around the clean setting first, but that's me.

    To note, the THR10 std model has a basic acoustic channel and a THR5A (predominantly acoustic amp) has an additional Electric guitar clean channel where the blend channel becomes a gain.

    I have the THR5A as I prefer acoustic, but dabble now and again in electric.
    The Fx section contains chorus, compressor, delay and reverb. the only one currently to have a compressor in the range (I think)

    I am still learning how to get the best sound out of my THR5A, but they are wonderful amps for home use.
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  • Just my 2p, when I was starting out I had a Vintage Strat copy and a bolt on neck Epi Les Paul, playing through a Park G10 amp. Then I bought a Fender Princeton and it was such a revelation.

    A different amp will make the world of difference, nowadays the amp I switch on most is a Fender G-DEC 3 30, backing tracks, MP3 input, and you can plug it into a PA for gigs, sounds fine loud, quiet or through headphones.

    Handy having a metronome available too.

    I think the new Fender Mustang range is the latest iteration of the GDEC, and seem to get good reviews from players rather than magazines.

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  • Skodadad said:
    I think I'm OK for this month, I'm already over budget :) maybe some advice on the cheapest strat worth considering though lol. Also I have a vintage pair of mighty mite pickups, am wondering if I should swap them into one of present guitars?
    Squier Classic Vibe Strat.  These are very well priced and great playing/sounding guitars. Forget that it's a Squier, it's every bit as good as the Mexican Standard Fender guitars (better some might say).  You can pick them up for under £200 used or around £350 new.
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  • Would these classic vibes need any electronics / pup upgrades or are they decent from the factory?
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  • TTonyTTony Frets: 14030
    Skodadad said:
    Would these classic vibes need any electronics / pup upgrades
    Some people will be quite happily gigging these guitars in standard spec.

    Others would only play something that they've spend a few thousand on, and then a few hundred more upgrading.

    :D

    From what you've said about your own situation, I'd say you'd be more than fine with it in standard spec.


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  • 57Deluxe57Deluxe Frets: 5407
    Yes, get a GOOD tube amp, then all you guitars will sound great!

    The sonic contribution ratio between guitar and amp is probably 35:65 to the amp...
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  • GruGru Frets: 336
    TTony;775402" said:
    Skodadad said:

    Would these classic vibes need any electronics / pup upgrades





    Some people will be quite happily gigging these guitars in standard spec.

    Others would only play something that they've spend a few thousand on, and then a few hundred more upgrading.

    :D

    From what you've said about your own situation, I'd say you'd be more than fine with it in standard spec.
    I've owned both a CV Strat and CV Tele and both were outstanding as standard. There really would be no need to upgrade.
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  • Someone mentioned yamaha, is the pacification strat any good?
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  • Pacifica... Damn phone predictions
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  • I just checked the mighty mite pickups with a meter and they measure 13.39 and 13.41. Should I fit them to either the stagg les paul or the sammick av1 or would they be wasted, outdated or incompatible? Sorry I'm new to all this. image
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 30909
    Not wasted, outdated or incompatible, no! They are certainly quite high-output, and not the type of sound that has become fashionable again more recently, but they were the very thing in the 1970s/early 80s and will still give you that sort of hot, middy tone.

    Which guitar do you use for more 'rock' stuff (assuming you do!) as opposed to more 'bluesy'? If neither, which guitar sounds better to you at the moment? Put them in the other one :).

    If you can't choose in any other way, I'd probably try them in the Samick since it has more of a 70s/80s look about it! Sometimes it comes down to no more than that ;). It's not an irreversible mod in any case, you can easily put the original pickups back later if you keep them.
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • I do prefer the sammick, it has a thinner neck which I find more comfortable. When I first started I found the Stagg easier as my fingers seemed to catch adjacent strings but somehow my brain seems to have stored finger positions better now.
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 30909
    Do you prefer the sound of the Samick as well? If not, definitely put them in it.

    The MMs will be an upgrade in quality terms in either guitar, actually - although quality and tone preference are not quite the same thing.
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • II have fitted them in the Samick, I like the look of it the most and have decided to get rid of the Les Paul in favour of today's new acquisition. image
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  • Pardon the question, but have you played with anyone?

    Even a half hour with a friend who remembers what it was like starting out can accelerate your learning process exponentially. You might also find that it's either your gear holding you back (settings need tweaking or it's really not up to the job) and not you.

    I had the usual acoustic when I started out and was on the verge of giving up until a friend came round with a Tele copy and I found out that it didn't have to be finger-mutilatingly hard.
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  • I don't really know anyone here, we moved here last year but have been so preoccupied with our new baby and two year old along with a full house renovation we just have not had the chance to make friends. I also struggle with practice, I find myself playing the same thing over and over as I just don't know what to do during practice. I want to get some lessons but don't know where to look. I saw a few guys in the local classified ads but I wouldn't know a good tutor from bad. I am at least now happy with my guitar sound. Yesterday I learned how to adjust the truss rod on a guitar, managing to remove a forward bow from the neck of the Samick. I also learned how to set intonation. Today I am trying to move quickly to a Cm chord, my finger strength has improved a lot but my speed is badly lacking. I watched a lot of you guys on here yesterday and it makes me realise how bad I actually am... Quite depressing Yet inspiring at the same time.
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