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  • Great! Let us know what happens. 
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  • Great! Let us know what happens. 
    Will do!  Thus far very happy with JHS - and hope BluGuitar help out.  They get a two year warranty in Germany.
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  • Great! Let us know what happens. 
    Will do!  Thus far very happy with JHS - and hope BluGuitar help out.  They get a two year warranty in Germany.
    Two years. Really? Is that EU legal? Or is it something we opted out of? 
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  • Great! Let us know what happens. 
    Will do!  Thus far very happy with JHS - and hope BluGuitar help out.  They get a two year warranty in Germany.
    Two years. Really? Is that EU legal? Or is it something we opted out of? 
    I'm really not sure.  The JHS guy mentioned it.
    My band, No Soap No Radio.

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  • ekalksekalks Frets: 0
    Hello everyone. I just recently purchased a Bluguitar Amp1 and then a BOSS MS3 effects/channel switching unit. I am having a hard time programming the midi with regards to setting different gains, power soak etc. I put in the the correct PC and CC numbes but am not understanding what the issue is. I have reset the unit multiple times. I emailed Thomas 2 weeks ago and have not gotten a response. Anyone know the exact sequence of how to program it reliably? Thanks.
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  • monquixotemonquixote Frets: 8015
    On the one I had the midi didn't work properly.

    It was one of the reasons I sent it back.
    Handsome_Chris said: Like white Nile Rodgers. 
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 26818
    I recently tried one of these.

    It was absolutely horrible. Nasty dynamics - stiff and unresponsive when playing gently, then sounding like it was brick-wall limited when playing hard; nasty tone - very nasal and clangy, which could not be dialed out completely even with extreme EQ settings; impossible to balance the channels completely even using the massively annoying fiddly little trimpots; and required a total change of settings for different guitars.

    I didn't even get round to using the FX loop or trying the MIDI… no point when it sounded that bad. Incredibly disappointing after it sounded pretty good in some demo clips.

    No idea about the reliability - it wasn't with me to be repaired, just checked over - but I've heard enough that it would put me off, given that it looks like it would be very difficult to repair other than by a factory board replacement.
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • TheBigDipperTheBigDipper Frets: 550
    @ekalks ;

    I'm a happy AMP1 user who had MIDI working well after a little bit of work. The problem was with me, not the unit. I was able to program the AMP1 to change channel/boost/reverb settings and change the Power Soak, 2nd Master Volume and Gain settings. The "toggle" functions listed in the manual (the reverb/boost/effects loop on/off commands) aren't available on "MIDI Learn" AMP1s, because you can't "learn" them.

    I  believe there are two issues to be aware of.

    1: Very early versions of AMP1 were sold with MIDI support "pre-programmed" and did not have the "MIDI Learn" capability. You need to know which version you own. 

    2: Many people (like me) didn't have much practical experience with MIDI before trying to control an AMP1. You might, you might not. They don't yet understand their MIDI controller that well. 

    How to check if your AMP1 is "MIDI Learn" capable... Connect the AMP1 to your controller using the MIDI1 cable. Press and hold the Boost switch. Does the Reverb switch flash on and off? Your AMP1 has "MIDI Learn". 

    MIDI Learn worked fine for me to set up the PC commands and the unit responded to my CC changes when I moved faders sending the CC values. My MIDI controller was an M-Audio Code49 keyboard, BTW. I was only testing functionality and don't actually use MIDI on my board. For the AMP1, I use the programmable switches on the unit, plus a 2-button foot-switch to change between clean and overdriven, plus toggle the boost on/off. 

    But I am interested in how you get on with MIDI on your MS3, because I'm starting to buy MIDI-controllable pedals. I'm currently struggling with the Boss documentation for MIDI support on the MS3 (but I don't own one) to see if that will work for me. 

    For me, MIDI Learn worked exactly as documented. Like this...

    1. Connect your MIDI controller and MIDI1 cable to the remote socket on AMP1 
    2: Select the combination of channel, boost and reverb setting you want to program
    3. Press + hold Boost switch on AMP1
        (Reverb switch should blink on and off)
        Release Boost switch - you now have approx 10 seconds to...
    4: Send the PC command from your MIDI controller that you want to use for this setting
        (The Reverb switch should stop blinking, which means it's programmed)

    Repeat steps 2-4. 

    For me, CC commands just worked. 

    Direct support from BluGuitar is patchy. I think they expect the importer to do first line support, but the UK importer doesn't have much knowledge (or didn't - I haven't needed to speak to them for a year, now). 

    Good luck! 




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  • TheBigDipperTheBigDipper Frets: 550
    ICBM said:
    I recently tried one of these.

    It was absolutely horrible. Nasty dynamics - stiff and unresponsive when playing gently, then sounding like it was brick-wall limited when playing hard; nasty tone - very nasal and clangy, which could not be dialed out completely even with extreme EQ settings; impossible to balance the channels completely even using the massively annoying fiddly little trimpots; and required a total change of settings for different guitars.

    I didn't even get round to using the FX loop or trying the MIDI… no point when it sounded that bad. Incredibly disappointing after it sounded pretty good in some demo clips.

    No idea about the reliability - it wasn't with me to be repaired, just checked over - but I've heard enough that it would put me off, given that it looks like it would be very difficult to repair other than by a factory board replacement.
    We're all different, I guess. I bought mine after hearing Thomas play one at the Mansons Guitar show in Exeter about 18 months ago. He filled the room with the amp and a Nano cab. It sounded great to my ears. I'm getting nice sounds out of mine, too. I can also get some horrible sounds if I try, but I try and avoid those! I'm mainly enjoying the clean and vintage channels, using single coil pickup guitars. The classic channel isn't to my taste and the modern channel only gets used for a lead sound. 

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  • DLMDLM Frets: 1491
    Great! Let us know what happens. 
    Will do!  Thus far very happy with JHS - and hope BluGuitar help out.  They get a two year warranty in Germany.
    Two years. Really? Is that EU legal? Or is it something we opted out of? 
    I'm really not sure.  The JHS guy mentioned it.
    It's in the German Civil Code.
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  • SassafrasSassafras Frets: 10935
    ICBM said:
    I recently tried one of these.

    It was absolutely horrible. Nasty dynamics - stiff and unresponsive when playing gently, then sounding like it was brick-wall limited when playing hard; nasty tone - very nasal and clangy, which could not be dialed out completely even with extreme EQ settings; impossible to balance the channels completely even using the massively annoying fiddly little trimpots; and required a total change of settings for different guitars.

    I didn't even get round to using the FX loop or trying the MIDI… no point when it sounded that bad. Incredibly disappointing after it sounded pretty good in some demo clips.

    No idea about the reliability - it wasn't with me to be repaired, just checked over - but I've heard enough that it would put me off, given that it looks like it would be very difficult to repair other than by a factory board replacement.
    How did it compare to a Micro Terror?
     ;) 
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 26818
    Sassafras said:

    How did it compare to a Micro Terror?
     ;) 
    Not as appalling :).

    I could just about get a tolerable sound on the Bluguitar (I think on all the channels in isolation, but I can't remember for sure), provided I didn't try radical changes of dynamics. It certainly didn't have that hideous overpowering, grating, fatiguing tone of the Micro Terror, and there was no 'after buzz' in my ears when I stopped playing.

    So the Micro Terror's position as the Worst Amp Ever remains unchallenged for now...
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • ntuncerntuncer Frets: 0
    Hello all,
    Thank you very much for sharing information about Amp1 it really helps me to sorting out. I have a question about MIDI1 cable which is a mono jack not stereo. Could someone who has MIDI1 cable, check with multi-meter and share which midi pin connects which part of mono jack please? I am trying to solder my midi cable.
    Thanks in advance! 
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