Living with a chambered...Lezzie

Bogwhoppit

Lets not use 'Lester', but the chambered (i.e. fully fledged virtually hollow 2007 semi-acoustic Les Paul) affectionately known - by me - as the 'Lezzie'.

 

Tis rather resonant, in fact its bloody nice. I like the 'Lezzie'

 

 

octatonic

Stop it!

jd0272

I work with some lezzie's. And some man lezzie's. None of em look like Lester's.......

Lixarto

None of them look like Lester's what?

fretfinder

Lixarto;128026" said:

None of them look like Lester's what?

Not 'arf.

Got any pics bog whopper? (iPhone predictive text!)

thermionic

Lester's Polfuss?

fretfinder

thermionic;128055" said:

Lester's Polfuss?

Or Polsfuss, even. B-)

davejm

Can't say I've played a chambered LP but there ought to be a law against the weight of some of the solid buggers.

jd0272

Sometimes I think it's all just lost on you lot!  

I'd like to try a chambered, don't think I'd buy one tho in these cash strapped times.

citizen68

Lester's sister.. Lezzie

57Deluxe

...when you say chambered lezzie - do you really mean a hollowed-out lesbian? Please don't mince your words I get confused with what we are supposed to be talking about...

Bogwhoppit

57Deluxe said:

...when you say chambered lezzie - do you really mean a hollowed-out lesbian? Please don't mince your words I get confused with what we are supposed to be talking about...

This was the first incarnation in 2007 before they moved over to modern weight relieved. 2007 was a transitional period between weight relieved > chambered > modern. The 2007 never got the asynchronous neck, locking jack etc. So a best of both worlds, but super light ( 71/2 pound)

ChrisMusic

57Deluxe said:   ...when you say chambered lezzie - do you really mean a hollowed-out lesbian? Please don't mince your words I get confused with what we are supposed to be talking about...

And maybe slightly moist ....

ChrisMusic

Bogwhoppit said:   This was the first incarnation in 2007 before they moved over to modern weight relieved. 2007 was a transitional period between weight relieved > chambered > modern. The 2007 never got the asynchronous neck, locking jack etc. So a best of both worlds, but super light ( 71/2 pound)

Excellent info Mr Whoppit, I wondered what the relief methods were, the comparison pictures show that beautifully.

The chambered version is a semi in all but name, without the ƒ holes.

You said 2007 was when this method was used as a transition, so when did Gibson start using the modern weight relief (and do you know how that relates to serial numbers) ?

Cheers,  Chris.

not_the_dj

IIRC the modern weight relief was introduced with the 2012 Les Paul Standard.

Bogwhoppit

ChrisMusic said:

Excellent info Mr Whoppit, I wondered what the relief methods were, the comparison pictures show that beautifully.

The chambered version is a semi in all but name, without the ƒ holes.

You said 2007 was when this method was used as a transition, so when did Gibson start using the modern weight relief (and do you know how that relates to serial numbers) ?

Cheers,  Chris.

As not_the_dj said, the modern weight relief was introduced in 2012, from late 2006 they were chambered (chambering started in earnest during 2007, but some late 2006 models also got the 'test' treatment). Then in late 2007 - mainly from 2008, the new Les Pauls with the weird neck, locking jack and coil taps appeared.  Fast forward to 2012 and we have modern weight relieved.

Just as Tokai Les Pauls could arguably be called different to Gibson, there is no doubt the biggest variation in Les Pauls is within the Gibson brand itself.  So will the real Les Paul stand up ....

ChrisMusic

Thanks for that, not_the_dj and Bogwhoppit.    

Now all I need to do is make head or tail of the plethora of Gibson neck profiles, current and past, then I'll be a happy bunny (well happier anyway)    

Bogwhoppit

ChrisMusic said:

Now all I need to do is make head or tail of the plethora of Gibson neck profiles, current and past, then I'll be a happy bunny (well happier anyway)    

Thick
Medium thick
Slightly thick
Thin
Thinish
Middle thick with thin wedge
Kind of thin
Slim thin
Thick slim
Middlethick with thin tendancy's
Can't make there mind up thin -ick
The machine broke so, thin on Tuesdays, thick on Wednesdays
Pedro de Pacas (the Gibson mexican labourer on cheap wages) who sands the neck, and was high on smack at the time - whatever thickness you want man.

Snappy thin
Twiggy thin
Dawn French super thick
Leslie West big thick

57Deluxe

I meant - Lezzie  - empty inside...

Monstronaut

I know prople who swear blind their LP is solid when Gibson started weight relief on all Les Pauls in 1983(apart from historics/reissues). I've played some beastly heavy one's, can't imagine what they'd weigh without it.

ChrisMusic

Hey Mr Whoppit, you don't happen to work part time for Gibson USA do you ?

That list of neck profiles is actually easier to understand than anything I have yet seen from the big G !

Actually you probably only needed two to fairly faithfully describe everything from early fifties through to today...

"The machine broke so, thin on Tuesdays, thick on Wednesdays."

"Pedro de Pacas (the Gibson mexican labourer on cheap wages) who sands the neck, and was high on smack at the time - whatever thickness you want man."

This may be closer to the truth than we may wish to believe.

Nice one, it made me laugh anyway, thanks for a cheery moment in a grey day.