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  • SporkySporky Frets: 27576
    I've been marking out the machines with gaffa on the floor, which has helped quite a bit. CAD is very useful but seeing the space disappear as machines are added makes a big difference. I might get some big sheets of craft paper or card though so they're easier to move around in the space itself.

    Working from home today and tomorrow so I can take breaks to go and look at things for five minutes or so.
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  • Sporky said:
    I've been marking out the machines with gaffa on the floor, which has helped quite a bit. CAD is very useful but seeing the space disappear as machines are added makes a big difference. I might get some big sheets of craft paper or card though so they're easier to move around in the space itself.

    Working from home today and tomorrow so I can take breaks to go and do some work look at things for five minutes or so.
    Edited for accuracy... ;)

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  • SporkySporky Frets: 27576
    The unwanted ducting bits have gone back, and the new stuff has arrived. Record Power aluminium blast gates and 100mm to 38mm hose (the latter for the chopsaw and other small outlet-port tools), plus a load of couplers, 45 and 90 degree bends and wall brackets and split ring mounts for the main ducting - much easier than trying to use slotted banding which was my original plan.

    The downside of this is that I'll have to lift the entire ducting system to ceiling height in one go. Erp.
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  • SporkySporky Frets: 27576
    Had a quick lunch and spent the rest of my hour putting up brackets. Exciting.

    First I made a little template out of some slotted banding offcut, and marked where the upper screw hole for each bracket should be to leave clearance to the ceiling:

    http://www.monkeyfx.co.uk/pictures/new_workshop/091216 ducting/template.jpg

    Then I put washers onto some quite chunky and vicious wood screws:

    http://www.monkeyfx.co.uk/pictures/new_workshop/091216 ducting/bigscrews.jpg

    Next I attached the bracket hangers to the walls (making sure I was on the big timbers):

    http://www.monkeyfx.co.uk/pictures/new_workshop/091216 ducting/hangerup.jpg

    And attached half of a split-ring to each hanger:

    http://www.monkeyfx.co.uk/pictures/new_workshop/091216 ducting/bracketmounted.jpg

    Ta-da! Brackets all fitted, and I marked each with its size to save time later.

    http://www.monkeyfx.co.uk/pictures/new_workshop/091216 ducting/bracketsfitted.jpg

    And with the rest of the ducting bits here I built up the extractor point:

    http://www.monkeyfx.co.uk/pictures/new_workshop/091216 ducting/extractorjoint.jpg

    And one of the drop branches.

    http://www.monkeyfx.co.uk/pictures/new_workshop/091216 ducting/outletbranch.jpg

    So just the rest to cut, assemble and mount before Monday. Easy. Erp.
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  • RockerRocker Frets: 4943
    Very impressive @Sporky. Following this thread with great interest...
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  • BigMonkaBigMonka Frets: 1763
    Looking good, how heavy is this stuff?
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  • SporkySporky Frets: 27576
    Not as heavy as you might think. I can carry a 3m section of the biggest (150mm diameter) in each hand if I get the grip right. The junctions and bends are a bit more dense so I'll need to work out how to lift it in sections.
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  • RolandRoland Frets: 8590
    Can you hoist it into place with rope? You could attach ring bolts to the upper holes of the C brackets, and run strings through them to lift/support complete sections. Even if you have to work it up a few inches at a time you could do it by yourself, pulling and tying off each string in turn.
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  • RockerRocker Frets: 4943
    Inches @Roland?  You must mean a few 2½ cms at a time.....
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  • SporkySporky Frets: 27576
    That's some darned fine thinking! Lady BMcH has offered to help too so I reckon it's doable. Just need to crack on with it.

    My Bott catalogue arrived today. I am sorely tempted to get some Perfo cabinets.
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  • octatonicoctatonic Frets: 33725
    Sporky said:
    That's some darned fine thinking! Lady BMcH has offered to help too so I reckon it's doable. Just need to crack on with it.

    My Bott catalogue arrived today. I am sorely tempted to get some Perfo cabinets.
    Very spendy those.
    I have been looking too.
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  • TTonyTTony Frets: 27344
    I'm now considering a steel barn.  Insulated, naturally.  With solar panels on the roof.

    13m x 6m (which is the size of the pre-existing concrete slab), but subdivided into discrete areas.

    Floor would just be concrete, but I guess I could put some mats in the walk areas.

    Or am I being silly?
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  • SporkySporky Frets: 27576
    octatonic said:
    Sporky said:
    That's some darned fine thinking! Lady BMcH has offered to help too so I reckon it's doable. Just need to crack on with it.

    My Bott catalogue arrived today. I am sorely tempted to get some Perfo cabinets.
    Very spendy those.
    I have been looking too.
    Yeah. Very solid though. And no more money than the decent welded alternatives. Just not sure if I'd be better off with a more traditional joiner's bench.
    TTony said:
    I'm now considering a steel barn.  Insulated, naturally.  With solar panels on the roof.

    13m x 6m (which is the size of the pre-existing concrete slab), but subdivided into discrete areas.

    Floor would just be concrete, but I guess I could put some mats in the walk areas.

    Or am I being silly?
    I'd go wood rather than steel, and at least put a wood floor in. Ideally battens with celotex or expanded polystyrene between them, then ply on top. Concrete's horrible to stand on and work.

    Nice size though.

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  • octatonicoctatonic Frets: 33725
    Sporky said:
    I'd go wood rather than steel, and at least put a wood floor in. Ideally battens with celotex or expanded polystyrene between them, then ply on top. Concrete's horrible to stand on and work.

    Nice size though.

    I have carpet. It is awesome.
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  • TTonyTTony Frets: 27344
    Sporky said:

    I'd go wood rather than steel, and at least put a wood floor in. Ideally battens with celotex or expanded polystyrene between them, then ply on top. Concrete's horrible to stand on and work.

    Nice size though.

    Wood is what I started looking at, but it gets awful pricey for that sort of size.

    So the plan was a couple of separate buildings, leaving a gap in between that we'd roof over one day (and use as a log store or whatever).

    But MrsTT wasn't too keen on that "bitty" design and suggested a single building over the whole area, but subdivided so I've got a good sized workshop, split off from the mower store & log store.  There are rather a lot of steel framed barns out here, and so rather a lot of businesses who put them up.  Looks to be significantly cheaper than the wooden alternative.  Plus I'd have a perfect roof for the solar panels to generate my free electrickery.

    I probably would do something with the flooring, although concrete is nice & easy to keep clean ...


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  • SporkySporky Frets: 27576
    Really overdo the insulation if you're going steel or you'll bake in summer. Also paint the outside in something that's white in visible light and black in infra-red. If you can find anything like that.
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  • SporkySporky Frets: 27576
    I had quite a productive day. Dropped Sprocket off at the groomer's, then got stuck in.

    First job for the day is to seal all the branches - they've been fairly well made but there are a few little holes which will whistle if they're not sorted. There are a few to do...

    http://www.monkeyfx.co.uk/pictures/new_workshop/101216 ducting/branches.jpg

    I'm going to start with a pair of robot pants, which will join the extractor to the two main branches of ducting. The Wonder Wipes get any grease or similar off.

    http://www.monkeyfx.co.uk/pictures/new_workshop/101216 ducting/sealingprep.jpg

    Ta-da! done. I won't bore you with photos of all the others because I didn't take any.

    http://www.monkeyfx.co.uk/pictures/new_workshop/101216 ducting/robotpants.jpg

    On to ducting glory. The first section is easy; 3m of 100mm down to the corner.

    http://www.monkeyfx.co.uk/pictures/new_workshop/101216 ducting/first bit.jpg

    Bung a branch-on-reducer into it (for the lathe), and clamp a branch-on-pipe a bit further down (for the chopsaw):

    http://www.monkeyfx.co.uk/pictures/new_workshop/101216 ducting/secondsection.jpg

    Then you can measure between the two and cut a bit of 125mm duct to go between. The angle grinder is ace for this - takes seconds and makes lots of lovely sparks.

    http://www.monkeyfx.co.uk/pictures/new_workshop/101216 ducting/secondin.jpg

    I've put a bit of pipe into the brackets on the next wall to measure up for the next section. Cunning, huh?

    http://www.monkeyfx.co.uk/pictures/new_workshop/101216 ducting/thirdprep.jpg

    Cut and stick in. This is all dry-fit, it'll come down again before final installation.

    http://www.monkeyfx.co.uk/pictures/new_workshop/101216 ducting/thirdin.jpg

    Continue along the front wall in a similar manner:

    http://www.monkeyfx.co.uk/pictures/new_workshop/101216 ducting/frontbit.jpg

    And then put together the drops for the planer/tablesaw and the bandsaw:

    http://www.monkeyfx.co.uk/pictures/new_workshop/101216 ducting/drops.jpg

    And the last bit was to put the first screws in at the corners - this is much easier to do with the ducting installed so that everything lines up properly.

    http://www.monkeyfx.co.uk/pictures/new_workshop/101216 ducting/screwed.jpg

    Tomorrow it'll all come back down, the split rings get lined with foam, the joints get screwed and then up it goes again, at which point all the joints get taped and it's ready to go.

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  • TTonyTTony Frets: 27344
    I am slightly in awe of the planning and attention to detail in all of this.

    I stuck up a shed, lined it, and then squashed the kit in wherever it would fit.

    (truth be told, a lot of it didn't quite fit, and I spent more time moving stuff around than actually using it).

    In other news, I think I'm going back to wooden buildings.  Insulating a steel building sufficiently to avoid freezing when cold, or boiling when hot, and condensation most of the time, can get a little pricey.  Plus then don't generally have lots of windows.
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  • octatonicoctatonic Frets: 33725
    I think he is probably constructing one of these:


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  • SporkySporky Frets: 27576
    TTony said:
    I am slightly in awe of the planning and attention to detail in all of this.

    Planning?

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

    Though I am most pleased it looks that way. I'm about to place my fourth ducting order. Well, it's actually just extra split rings and brackets at this point.

    Also the placement of machines and ducts means I can't have the light switch where I'd like. Might go for a pull cord instead so I can have it at the door...
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