12 string Euro style JM build

redrighthand

WezV said:

redrighthand said:

Following this one.

How about a trem? Indeed how about a trem for the six higher strings only. Always fancied trying that.

That sounds ridiculous.




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I like it

  

My thoughts were when playing a chord and using the trem, it would give a more subtle shimmer, as half the strings would be unaffected.

WezV

so i got a plate made, and a faux tailpiece cut out of aluminium sheet with a string anchor block i am modding for 12 string

 

the plate is  a left over bit of old pearloid, but i made a template so may re-do it in another material later.  quite happy with the shape

Sporky

redrighthand said:

My thoughts were when playing a chord and using the trem, it would give a more subtle shimmer, as half the strings would be unaffected.

That's an ace idea. Or just the lower course, maybe. Hmm. You could probably do it with a Jag style trem and ferrules for the other six strings.

Does anyone make a 12-string roller bridge?

WezV

Sporky said:

redrighthand said:

My thoughts were when playing a chord and using the trem, it would give a more subtle shimmer, as half the strings would be unaffected.

That's an ace idea. Or just the lower course, maybe. Hmm. You could probably do it with a Jag style trem and ferrules for the other six strings.

That's what I was thinking.  Either 6 of them through the body or another plate between bridge and trem with some string slots in it.

the hook tailpiece I am using here could also be used with a trem behind... as long as the spacing was bang on 

redrighthand

Awesome. If you do this, then decide to sell it, please can I call dibs? 

paulnb57

Trem idea sound cool, hurry up, I need to see it!

WezV

I am still undecided on the trem idea.  I  thought I had an old teisco trem tailpiece  which I could mod and improve... can't find it though.   Might scour eBay for something interesting

WezV

I have just got a bit of 3mm blue sparkle perspex for the top.

its not quite right, a bit on the dark side with small particles.  I am going to cut out a jazzmaster sized piece and see what i think

Shark_Eyes

Just spotted this on reverb -https://reverb.com/item/3518288-eko-520-2v-1964-rare-vintage-solid-wood

Your one could look pretty good in wood, if the perspex doesn't work out.

WezV

well i have not managed to do any guitar stuff over the last two weeks, but i did finally get chance to glue some perspex to the top of  this.   i really should have left the plastic on until its done, but i couldn't resist a quick mock up.. it will get re-protected with masking tape in a mo

i was not totally sure about the perspex, its a bit more subtle than originally intended and I immediately found a supply of spanglier stuff after it arrived.  but i went with it and think it works quite nicely - bluer than it looks in the pics


a close up


The trem is an old satellite one - and i have just found a supplier of the arms and springs to go with it

GSPBASSES

Sporky said:

redrighthand said:

My thoughts were when playing a chord and using the trem, it would give a more subtle shimmer, as half the strings would be unaffected.

That's an ace idea. Or just the lower course, maybe. Hmm. You could probably do it with a Jag style trem and ferrules for the other six strings.

Does anyone make a 12-string roller bridge?

Yes ABM.

Edit. I'll take that back, they don't seem to list it anymore.

Danielsguitars

Looking forward to seeing this wez

I've been listening to alot of 12 strings lately, Bernie Marsden was showing his one off and it sounded fantastic
Could be his playing though

WezV

here is the last 12 string i finished... a SG shaped version of the Vox mando-guitar


and this one which has  been nearly finished for far too long



I honestly don't know how i have got to this point without making a normal 12-string, I have always wanted one

Danielsguitars

I was looking at a gibson twin neck that I'd never seen before
It was a spruce topped chambered one
Before the sg model, it was bass and 6 string though
Cme on you tube was doing a demo

Your one looks bloody good but is it a right handful
Like the sg shape one though

It's definitely on the to do list, can you use it like a normal 6 string if you want

WezV

Oh, it's not practical.... I managed to get the body and necks to a fairly reasonable weight but the sheer amount of hardware adds a lot too.    

Danielsguitars

Thought so

I've thought of doing something you could split the 2 halves and use individually or as a twin neck

If I do a twin neck I do fancy a jazzmaster shape

WezV

Like this

WezV

although mine is the obviously the opposite layout more often see on the rick 4080/12



neither of those will be lighter or more practical than mine, i doubt you would see anyone use them for more than 1 or 2 songs in a gig

WezV

I had to google the weight of the 4080/12's.  They listed them at 21lbs.  Last time I weighed mine it was about 15.

Danielsguitars

WezV said:

Like this

like the idea of that

Weather it's worth doing or not is anyone's guess
I'd do just 12 and 6 string though