Mooer Preamps!

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edited January 9 in FX
Looks like Mooer aren't satisfied with trying to put the willies up Strymon/Eventide/Boss with their digital pedals and the Ocean Machine...now they seem to want to eat AMT's lunch, too:



Question is...what are they? Been talking to Drew, and so far we have...

1 - Diezel
2 - Marshall
3 - ?
4 - Vox
5 - EVH 5150
6 - ?
7 - ?
8 - ?
9 - Budda
10 - Hiwatt

Any ideas? In any case, I think this is going to be a very interesting development if they're any good, particularly since I've been toying with the idea of chucking together a preamp-based board which can be plugged into any effects return for live stuff and sound practically the same (if I ever get back to that).
"Mains is ouchy if you get it up you" - Sporky
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  • joeyowenjoeyowen Frets: 2486
    7 & 8 fenders? 
    6 a bass amp I can't think of 
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  • digitalscreamdigitalscream Frets: 10034
    I reckon #7 might be a Fender, but the odd bit on the left hand side of #8 looks like a graphic EQ to me, which means it's probably a Mesa of some sort.
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  • joeyowenjoeyowen Frets: 2486
    3 looks very jet city, but I doubt it 
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  • 6. will be a plexi
    3. Mesa (I think)
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  • MattBansheeMattBanshee Frets: 241
    I reckon 6 is a Marshall Plexi whereas 2 is a JCM900/high gain Marshall.

    8 looks like a Fender blackface, perhaps?
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  • DopesickDopesick Frets: 719
    I'd say 8 is a Mesa Boogie.

    No idea about No.3. Was thinking ENGL but I doubt it.
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  • earwighoneyearwighoney Frets: 1238
    There really should be a Peavey Bandit preamp.... 
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  • sgosdensgosden Frets: 365
    ones gotta be a mesa 2/3 rec I reckon
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  • John_AJohn_A Frets: 681
    I'm thinking buy all of these, a pile of pedals and a gigrig or similar and building an Analogue Helix :)
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  • digitalscreamdigitalscream Frets: 10034
    John_A said:
    I'm thinking buy all of these, a pile of pedals and a gigrig or similar and building an Analogue Helix :)
    Oh, yeah...forgot to mention, Mooer do a looper too :D

    Seriously, their range is starting to get to Boss proportions now. They just don't seem to be able to stop making new pedals.
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  • paganskinspaganskins Frets: 43
    John_A said:
    I'm thinking buy all of these, a pile of pedals and a gigrig or similar and building an Analogue Helix :)
    Oh, yeah...forgot to mention, Mooer do a looper too :D

    Seriously, their range is starting to get to Boss proportions now. They just don't seem to be able to stop making new pedals.
    I'm waiting for this to appear


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  • thecolourboxthecolourbox Frets: 2181
    Oooh I like...

    I want to believe

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  • 6 might be Markbass. 

    These look interesting. A bass one with DI would be right up my street. 
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  • defo got to be a fender in there, just hard to say which 1, gotta be 7 is a black/silverface.
    6 is it a tweed?

    but yes saw these FB this morning and thought oooooh now thats a bit interesting for a back up amp to have in the kit bag, or something. then i thought nah thats the ale farts from last night and got on with me day.
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  • digitalscreamdigitalscream Frets: 10034

    but yes saw these FB this morning and thought oooooh now thats a bit interesting for a back up amp to have in the kit bag, or something. then i thought nah thats the ale farts from last night and got on with me day.
    Here's the thing - I know the AMT ones are definitely good enough to run direct into a PA from the cab emulated output. They also sound absolutely awesome when run into the effects return of a valve amp; there are videos around of the P-2, which is designed to be the preamp from a Peavey 5150 but with JFETs instead of glass bottles. At least one of those videos has somebody doing an A/B test between the amp's preamp and the pedal, and they were totally indistinguishable.

    If these pedals are that good, then (at Mooer prices) this could be a game changer.

    Imagine an alternate scenario: running one of the clean preamp pedals (a Fender-ish one, for example) as the last pedal in your chain. Put a distortion like the Bogner Red in front of it. You can basically run that into the effects return of any amp and have it sound pretty much identical every single time, and tweak the preamp EQ (ie global EQ) to taste.

    So...any time there's a shared backline at a gig, you can literally show up with your guitar and pedalboard, but be reasonably sure of the sound you're going to get. That's gold.
    "Mains is ouchy if you get it up you" - Sporky
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  • guitarfishbayguitarfishbay Frets: 5243
    edited January 9
    They only look to have one output which is less flexible than the AMTs, though it looks like there's a switch that might switch on a cab sim.

    Other than that they're interesting for sure.
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  • digitalscreamdigitalscream Frets: 10034
    They only look to have one output which is less flexible than the AMTs, though it looks like there's a switch that might switch on a cab sim.

    Other than that they're interesting for sure.
    I actually think that - in terms of the cab sim - a switch is more useful than a separate output; in a live situation, if you needed to go from non-emulated to emulated, AMT's solution requires rewiring your board (non-trivial if you have multiple preamps attached to a looper).
    "Mains is ouchy if you get it up you" - Sporky
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  • SassafrasSassafras Frets: 9032
    There's got to be a Dumble in there somewhere.
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  • TTBZTTBZ Frets: 355
    edited January 9
    Interesting. If the Marshall is as good as the Tech 21 British I might have to get one. 

    A nice bass one into my monitors would be perfect for bass too.
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  • joeyowenjoeyowen Frets: 2486
    I've made no secret about my dislike for mooer, so don't read if you don't want to hear my negative thoughts (again).

    But does anyone else just hate their lack of originality.  They seem to sit and wait for other pedals to be developed just to clone them, and woooo look how small they are.  I just can't warm to them.
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  • digitalscreamdigitalscream Frets: 10034
    joeyowen said:
    I've made no secret about my dislike for mooer, so don't read if you don't want to hear my negative thoughts (again).

    But does anyone else just hate their lack of originality.  They seem to sit and wait for other pedals to be developed just to clone them, and woooo look how small they are.  I just can't warm to them.
    To be fair, we don't know that these are clones of the AMT or Tech21 pedals - certainly the Budda isn't, because nobody makes one of those.

    Their digital pedals are also original, as is the Ocean Machine. The looper might be a clone of the Joyo, but I don't think Joyo could really complain about that too much :)
    "Mains is ouchy if you get it up you" - Sporky
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  • joeyowenjoeyowen Frets: 2486
    Fair points, I just think the market research has team have it easy. 
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  • digitalscreamdigitalscream Frets: 10034
    joeyowen said:
    Fair points, I just think the market research has team have it easy. 
    Actually, I think the market research department has done their job spectacularly well. The ones who have it easy are the R&D team :D
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  • joeyowenjoeyowen Frets: 2486
    joeyowen said:
    Fair points, I just think the market research has team have it easy. 
    Actually, I think the market research department has done their job spectacularly well. The ones who have it easy are the R&D team


    I totally agree they've done their job well to be fair. They've found a market and nailed it.

    I bet they don't know what R&D stand for :lol: 
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  • steamabacussteamabacus Frets: 840
    Hmmmmmmm .... those knobs look awfully small. I wouldn't want to have to tweak them on a dark stage. :s


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  • DesVegasDesVegas Frets: 3153
    steamabacus said:
    Hmmmmmmm .... those knobs look awfully small. I wouldn't want to have to tweak them on a dark stage. :s


    You'll be needing the Mooer tweezers then.
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  • steamabacussteamabacus Frets: 840
    DesVegas said:
    steamabacus said:
    Hmmmmmmm .... those knobs look awfully small. I wouldn't want to have to tweak them on a dark stage. :s

    You'll be needing the Mooer tweezers then.
    I already have a set from Maplins with a built-in led torch - perfect!
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  • John_AJohn_A Frets: 681
    They only look to have one output which is less flexible than the AMTs, though it looks like there's a switch that might switch on a cab sim.

    Other than that they're interesting for sure.
    I actually think that - in terms of the cab sim - a switch is more useful than a separate output; in a live situation, if you needed to go from non-emulated to emulated, AMT's solution requires rewiring your board (non-trivial if you have multiple preamps attached to a looper).
    O think two separate puts is better so you can run one to the desk and another in to an fx return at the same time but could certainly live with a switch
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  • Dave_McDave_Mc Frets: 1032
    Here's the thing - I know the AMT ones are definitely good enough to run direct into a PA from the cab emulated output. They also sound absolutely awesome when run into the effects return of a valve amp; there are videos around of the P-2, which is designed to be the preamp from a Peavey 5150 but with JFETs instead of glass bottles. At least one of those videos has somebody doing an A/B test between the amp's preamp and the pedal, and they were totally indistinguishable.

    If these pedals are that good, then (at Mooer prices) this could be a game changer.
    Yeah that's what I was thinking. Very interesting development, that's for sure.
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  • monquixotemonquixote Frets: 7810
    The AMT stuff is quite reasonably priced and I think I'd rather have a full size pedal for this kind of application. 
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