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I think this is Absolutely Gorgeous....

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  • BucketBucket Frets: 7751
    The earlier ones with black covers are usually better guitars though.

    Wouldn't the nickel covers affect the sound a little as well? They do look cool.
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  • IvisonGuitarsIvisonGuitars Frets: 6838
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    Bucket said:
    The earlier ones with black covers are usually better guitars though.
    Really? How so? (Genuine question)
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  • BucketBucket Frets: 7751
    miserneil said:
    Bucket said:
    The earlier ones with black covers are usually better guitars though.
    Really? How so? (Genuine question)
    More consistent quality-wise, generally better woods, perhaps better pickups if the nickel cover does indeed affect the tone (which I assume it would - how significantly is another matter). I've been lucky enough to play an early-60s ES-330 and it was a really wonderful guitar.

    I mean, as with all vintage guitars you have to judge each example on its merits. I'd rather have an earlier one though.
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  • KKJaleKKJale Frets: 982
    I think I found the advert the OP is looking at and I'd be very curious as to what they're asking for it. PM me - I won't gazump you, I have a 1960 ES330 and am sorted... promise...

    This one has a very interesting slabby, quite Braz-looking board which is unusual for '67, it's generally held that they went to Indian by mid-'66 or so. 

    I have a few other observations but the really crucial thing is whether this is a pencil neck, or not.
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  • IvisonGuitarsIvisonGuitars Frets: 6838
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    KKJale said:
    I think I found the advert the OP is looking at and I'd be very curious as to what they're asking for it. PM me - I won't gazump you, I have a 1960 ES330 and am sorted... promise...

    This one has a very interesting slabby, quite Braz-looking board which is unusual for '67, it's generally held that they went to Indian by mid-'66 or so. 

    I have a few other observations but the really crucial thing is whether this is a pencil neck, or not.
    Will do @KKJale ;

    To be honest, it's not for me anyway, the neck would be the issue, I can almost guarantee it'll be too thin for me. I can do Gibson necks up to about '65 then as soon as the go to the narrow nut, I'm out.

    If it were an early '60's though, it'd be a different kettle of fish.

    Anyone know if the Custom Shop did/do a black one?
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  • KKJaleKKJale Frets: 982
    edited January 2017
    Google-fu indicates they did do some, via Wildwood in the US, around 2012. http://tinyurl.com/js9us7e

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  • shugzshugz Frets: 768
    I don't mind the narrow/ cocktail stick necks. They can be an acquired taste though. One's I've owned from that era have usually had chunky neck carves further down the neck. 

    Looks a lovely guitar. I'm with some others who've chimed in and would like an all black earlier one ala Bernard but if I had to under duress then I'd accept something like this at a push, sort of, if I had to, kind of. Perhaps :)

    Get it bought.

    Cheers 
    Hugh

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  • IvisonGuitarsIvisonGuitars Frets: 6838
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    shugz said:
    I don't mind the narrow/ cocktail stick necks. They can be an acquired taste though. One's I've owned from that era have usually had chunky neck carves further down the neck. 

    Looks a lovely guitar. I'm with some others who've chimed in and would like an all black earlier one ala Bernard but if I had to under duress then I'd accept something like this at a push, sort of, if I had to, kind of. Perhaps :)

    Get it bought.

    Cheers 
    Hugh
    See, I think the chrome really sets it off, the black P90 covers make it all a bit too 'goth' for me! ;-)
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  • IvisonGuitarsIvisonGuitars Frets: 6838
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    KKJale said:
    Google-fu indicates they did do some, via Wildwood in the US, around 2012. http://tinyurl.com/js9us7e

    Those gold top hats....would be going STRAIGHT in the bin!!
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  • stickyfiddlestickyfiddle Frets: 26754
    Beautiful! The Casino/330 is the best use of P90s imo :)

    I'm anther one who doesn't mind those late 60's necks. The only thing I'd change would be to put regular black/silver reflector knobs on.
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  • DannyPDannyP Frets: 1667
    Moss said:
    The OP pic has the neck meet the body at the 16th like a Casino, but this one seems to have the same access as an ES335.

    Are they both ES330s? Was there a year when they changed over, or were they parallel options?

    Sorry, I don't know much about Electro-Spaniards, but I'm finding myself increasingly drawn to them as I get older!
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  • NeilNeil Frets: 3594
    Funny how everyone has different taste.

    Personally I would rather have any colour on an ES rather than black.

     Opaque colours  cover up all the wood grain.
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  • IvisonGuitarsIvisonGuitars Frets: 6838
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    Neil said:
    Funny how everyone has different taste.

    Personally I would rather have any colour on an ES rather than black.

     Opaque colours  cover up all the wood grain.
    I would usually say exactly the same @Neil and usually I don't care for black guitars either but this one just jumped out at me.

    Now, this one is a beauty if wood grain/figuring is your bag....

    http://www.audiotoyshop.com/store/p316/1963_Gibson_ES-330_TDC___SSC.html
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  • NeilNeil Frets: 3594
    miserneil said:
    Neil said:
    Funny how everyone has different taste.

    Personally I would rather have any colour on an ES rather than black.

     Opaque colours  cover up all the wood grain.
    I would usually say exactly the same @Neil and usually I don't care for black guitars either but this one just jumped out at me.

    Now, this one is a beauty if wood grain/figuring is your bag....

    http://www.audiotoyshop.com/store/p316/1963_Gibson_ES-330_TDC___SSC.html
    That is gorgeous - and doesn't seem a lot of money either.
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  • MossMoss Frets: 2409
    DannyP said:
    Moss said:
    The OP pic has the neck meet the body at the 16th like a Casino, but this one seems to have the same access as an ES335.

    Are they both ES330s? Was there a year when they changed over, or were they parallel options?

    Sorry, I don't know much about Electro-Spaniards, but I'm finding myself increasingly drawn to them as I get older!
    They changed the neck join in 68 (IIRC) - I much prefer the 335 style join
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  • IvisonGuitarsIvisonGuitars Frets: 6838
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    Moss said:
    DannyP said:
    Moss said:
    The OP pic has the neck meet the body at the 16th like a Casino, but this one seems to have the same access as an ES335.

    Are they both ES330s? Was there a year when they changed over, or were they parallel options?

    Sorry, I don't know much about Electro-Spaniards, but I'm finding myself increasingly drawn to them as I get older!
    They changed the neck join in 68 (IIRC) - I much prefer the 335 style join
    I don't know a great deal about them but if it's an ES 330L, doesn't that denote that its a long neck version i.e. like the ES335?
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  • olafgartenolafgarten Frets: 1648
    The 335 Neck one is the ES-330L, although then it was just the ES-330. The long neck ones don't really sound like a Casino at all, they are far more midrangey and sound a bit dull. 
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  • fretfinderfretfinder Frets: 4979
    Neil said:
    miserneil said:
    Neil said:
    Funny how everyone has different taste.

    Personally I would rather have any colour on an ES rather than black.

     Opaque colours  cover up all the wood grain.
    I would usually say exactly the same @Neil and usually I don't care for black guitars either but this one just jumped out at me.

    Now, this one is a beauty if wood grain/figuring is your bag....

    http://www.audiotoyshop.com/store/p316/1963_Gibson_ES-330_TDC___SSC.html
    That is gorgeous - and doesn't seem a lot of money either.
    It is indeed fantastic. If only it was the same but a 335 for that money!
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  • axisusaxisus Frets: 28280
    100% not my thing. Not for me ta.
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  • shugzshugz Frets: 768
    @miserneil ;

    Goth? Bloody Goths?

    I'd imagine you'd feel the same on a nice P90 loaded 50s Custom?? :)

    Thought so....

    Cheers
    Hugh

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