UK Government to confirm exit from EU single market in speech on Tuesday

Fretwired

marantz1300 said:

followed by the breakup of the uninted kingdom

No chance. Scotland can't afford it.

UnclePsychosis

Fretwired said:

marantz1300 said:

followed by the breakup of the uninted kingdom

No chance. Scotland can't afford it.

That's 

1. Debateable and
2. Fast becoming irrelevant. People up here are fed up of the direction the right wing of the Conservative party are determined to force on us all. Theresa May has made it clear she's more interested in pandering to Nigel Farage and the eurosceptics in her own party than acting in the best interests of the entire UK (i.e. Including Northern Ireland and Scotland). Scots increasingly don't want to live in a country where people like Nigel Farage, Theresa May and David Davis are pulling the strings. Given the lack of any kind of creditable opposition in England people are now beginning to feel that there's no other option. 

randella

UnclePsychosis said:

Scots increasingly don't want to live in a country where people like Nigel Farage, Theresa May and David Davis are pulling the strings. Given the lack of any kind of creditable opposition in England people are now beginning to feel that there's no other option.

Believe me, there are plenty here in England who feel the same, which is why I was glad IndyRef1 came down on the side of remain.  United front and all that.

Fretwired

UnclePsychosis said:

Fretwired said:

marantz1300 said:

followed by the breakup of the uninted kingdom

No chance. Scotland can't afford it.

That's 

1. Debateable and
2. Fast becoming irrelevant. People up here are fed up of the direction the right wing of the Conservative party are determined to force on us all. Theresa May has made it clear she's more interested in pandering to Nigel Farage and the eurosceptics in her own party than acting in the best interests of the entire UK (i.e. Including Northern Ireland and Scotland). Scots increasingly don't want to live in a country where people like Nigel Farage, Theresa May and David Davis are pulling the strings. Given the lack of any kind of creditable opposition in England people are now beginning to feel that there's no other option. 

No problem. You just need a currency and a central bank and decide where the cuts in public services will fall.

UnclePsychosis

Fretwired said:

UnclePsychosis said:

Fretwired said:

marantz1300 said:

followed by the breakup of the uninted kingdom

No chance. Scotland can't afford it.

That's 

1. Debateable and
2. Fast becoming irrelevant. People up here are fed up of the direction the right wing of the Conservative party are determined to force on us all. Theresa May has made it clear she's more interested in pandering to Nigel Farage and the eurosceptics in her own party than acting in the best interests of the entire UK (i.e. Including Northern Ireland and Scotland). Scots increasingly don't want to live in a country where people like Nigel Farage, Theresa May and David Davis are pulling the strings. Given the lack of any kind of creditable opposition in England people are now beginning to feel that there's no other option. 

No problem. You just need a currency and a central bank and decide where the cuts in public services will fall.

Irony level nearing overload, a Brexiter warning a country not to do something out of principle because it might be financially irresponsible. 

marantz1300

Scots.
how dare they leave and break up the union.
Norhen Ireland is also  on the precipice.
might be return of theIRA with the boarders returnig
the west north and midlands will also be winging when they lose their  EU funding.

Fretwired

UnclePsychosis said:

Irony level nearing overload, a Brexiter warning a country not to do something out of principle because it might be financially irresponsible. 

Moan at Brexiteers but at least we made our mind up and voted. Please call a referendum and do the same. And we won't know how financially irresponsible it will be for a while yet. All the doom mongers have been wrong so far with apologies from the BoE and the IMF.

marantz1300

give it time
it ain't happened yet.

quarky

UnclePsychosis said:

Irony level nearing overload, a Brexiter warning a country not to do something out of principle because it might be financially irresponsible. 

Brexit would actually have to be pretty disastrous to get EU levels of growth over the next decade. The current hole in Scotland's finances would be in a different ballpark.

Out of interest, is there a credible opposition in Scotland to the SNP?

I would have voted to leave if I was in Scotland though.

UnclePsychosis

Fretwired said:

UnclePsychosis said:

Irony level nearing overload, a Brexiter warning a country not to do something out of principle because it might be financially irresponsible. 

Moan at Brexiteers but at least we made our mind up and voted. Please call a referendum and do the same. And we won't know how financially irresponsible it will be for a while yet. All the doom mongers have been wrong so far with apologies from the BoE and the IMF.

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ctjdx0iWcAAKQsW.jpg

marantz1300

Amazingly we ARE still at present a member of the EU.

Nitefly

marantz1300 said:

followed by the breakup of the uninted kingdom

I don't think that will happen in my lifetime.

Mind you, I am 67...

Fretwired

UnclePsychosis said:

Fretwired said:

UnclePsychosis said:

Irony level nearing overload, a Brexiter warning a country not to do something out of principle because it might be financially irresponsible. 

Moan at Brexiteers but at least we made our mind up and voted. Please call a referendum and do the same. And we won't know how financially irresponsible it will be for a while yet. All the doom mongers have been wrong so far with apologies from the BoE and the IMF.

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ctjdx0iWcAAKQsW.jpg

So what?

I know we haven't had Brexit yet (I made that point endlessly to the whingers on the Brexit thread but was shouted down as doom was around the corner - it wasn't) but George Osborne, the BoE and the IMF said we'd be off to Hell in a hand cart the day after the vote. Didn't happen which is why they apologised - Osborne didn't - he was just lying as usual. In fact the BoE and IMF have been proved wrong more often than right. And I don't think economic Armageddon will happen so there!!

marantz1300

Leavetardness alert

Motorhate

Serious question. Can anybody give me a reason (or reason) why we should remain part of the EU? I'm genuinely interested in why people voted remain.

olafgarten

I've always said that the EU is the new German empire, without us as the opposing major power its going to be even worse for the remaining states. 

Fortheloveofguitar

olafgarten said:

I've always said that the EU is the new German empire, without us as the opposing major power its going to be even worse for the remaining states. 

This

Trump has their number when he says it's just a vehicle for Germany. It's always been about them 

quarky

Motorhate said:

Serious question. Can anybody give me a reason (or reason) why we should remain part of the EU? I'm genuinely interested in why people voted remain.

They are like an abusive spouse, and if we threaten to leave, they might hit us. Facetiousness aside, stability, and possible economic damage, and I guess some people think the nation state is "done". None of which are enough of a reason for me personally.

Motorhate

Italy and Greece are basically making huge contributions to the German banks and funding the German economy to the detriment of their own country's economies. The EU has indebted generations of people in Greece, more than likely knowing full well that they can rinse that country dry at their leisure.

ewal

UnclePsychosis said:

Fretwired said:

marantz1300 said:

followed by the breakup of the uninted kingdom

No chance. Scotland can't afford it.

That's 

1. Debateable and
2. Fast becoming irrelevant. People up here are fed up of the direction the right wing of the Conservative party are determined to force on us all. Theresa May has made it clear she's more interested in pandering to Nigel Farage and the eurosceptics in her own party than acting in the best interests of the entire UK (i.e. Including Northern Ireland and Scotland). Scots increasingly don't want to live in a country where people like Nigel Farage, Theresa May and David Davis are pulling the strings. Given the lack of any kind of creditable opposition in England people are now beginning to feel that there's no other option. 

^this