Newbie Junior questions

Hootsmon

I notice my new Junior 57 has a shallower neck angle than my LP 58

lay both flat on floor and the difference in the two guitars is roughly about half.....( 1" and 1/2 ") distance from neck heel to floor

this par for the course?

Oh, everything is as it should be with regards to bridge height  action, intonation  and so forth

I also strung new guitar with a set of my regular 10s and they feel like little elastic bands on this guitar...par for the course?

Do the 2014 LP 57 Juniors come with regular PUP wiring or 50s wiring?

many thanks guys 

WezV

Yeah, carved tops generally need a steeper angle... if they where the same the bridge on your junior would need to be twice as tall

Hootsmon

cheers Wez....what about the 10s feeling like 8s is that the wrapover doing that?

WezV

They shouldn't feel that different in tension to a normal les Paul.  The different string length affects the feel slightly, but not that much

Hootsmon

anyone on the 2014 wiring.....modern or 50s?

Danielsguitars

There is definitely a difference in tension imo with a wraptail

I've just strung up a new special I just made and the tension is noticeable with 10's

The goldtop I made with a wraptail has got 11's on and it still feels good 

Depends on what it feels like to you, try 11's can't hurt 

Bridgehouse

I put 11's on my wraptails - they can take it and the tension definitely feels lower on a WT

monoamine

i have never understood why people feel there is a difference in tension when wrapping around a tailpiece

the scale length is constant
the break angle is constant
tension the string will be under to tune to pitch (ie standard frequency and amplitude) is constant....

so it must all be in yer heads

monofin

Another one here for using 11's on a wrap over and 10's on a tunamatic. Just feels right to me

WezV

monoamine said:

i have never understood why people feel there is a difference in tension when wrapping around a tailpiece

the scale length is constant
the break angle is constant
tension the string will be under to tune to pitch (ie standard frequency and amplitude) is constant....

so it must all be in yer heads

The string length isn't constant though.  That comes into play when bending as the whole string is affected


still, it's only a difference of a couple of inches here.  You can feel a difference, but I wouldn't expect anyone to describe it as a difference of 2 string gauges

WezV

And the break angle at the bridge is clearly not the same on both guitars

p90fool

hootsmon said:

anyone on the 2014 wiring.....modern or 50s?

You own one, we don't, why don't you tell us?

Seriously, there are two little screws holding the cover on.

IvisonGuitars

Always 11's on a Junior - the difference, tonally, is night and day to 10's - to my cork sniffy ears at least.

stimpsonslostson

hootsmon said:

anyone on the 2014 wiring.....modern or 50s?

I don't know what it left the factory with, but I've 50s wired every Jr. I've ever had- it gives a more diverse range of sounds & when you've only got a P90, volume, tone and picking dynamics to work with it makes sense to have all the options you can. 

Its only a couple of wires to move & is reversible if you don't like it. Just give it a try. 

p90fool

It may have a circuit board though. Not insurmountable, but you can mod them, or simply bin it and start again.
I've tried a 2015 and that definitely sounded like modern wiring, I'd guess the 2014 is too.

Philly_Q

hootsmon said:

my new Junior 57 

Hang on, hang on, you've bought one at last?  When did this happen?  Was there an NGD thread?  Pics?

fretfinder

miserneil said:

Always 11's on a Junior - the difference, tonally, is night and day to 10's - to my cork sniffy ears at least.

Just restrung mine with 10s 

Danielsguitars

miserneil said:

Always 11's on a Junior - the difference, tonally, is night and day to 10's - to my cork sniffy ears at least.

i'd probably say the same on any wrap tail guitar

10's don't sound as good to me on a tom bridge either, especially the low e for some reason, probably string tension again just depends how much effort I want to put in 

jd0272

Philly_Q said:

hootsmon said:

my new Junior 57 

Hang on, hang on, you've bought one at last?  When did this happen?  Was there an NGD thread?  Pics?

My thoughts exactly.