The Walking Dead Thread

Nikko

Moltisanti said:

it's the 2nd most harrowing episode for me, the worst one being the one with the two little girls and Carole....i had to properly reboot after that one

The Grove...haunts me, that one.

FarleyUK

octatonic said:

I'm actually wondering if this is the 'jump the shark' moment for this series.
It was harrowing but I'm not sure I'm interested any longer.

Interestingly, this is something I'm seeing echoed on various websites and forums about TWD. General feeling is that ti was basically torture-porn, and the writers have dropped the ball somewhat.

Personally, I thought it was pretty harrowing (despite Slash, of all f*cking people, ruin the deaths for me).

Plus at least it's not hit the bottom of the barrel like FTWD yet....

stickyfiddle

The whole show has been misery porn for a while. The problem is, unless there's some long term light/tunnel situation coming up (which I'm very aware there isn't), then it's just going to stay stuck in a cycle of:

1. Find new settlement with new friendly people
2. win trust of new people, get false sense of security
3. Big Bad arrives, kills most new people and one old favourite.
4. Run away! Eventually kill Big Bad
5. See 1.

When there's so much other great TV being made and I already don't have enough hours to watch it all... I'm kinda over it. 

FarleyUK

stickyfiddle said:

The whole show has been misery porn for a while. The problem is, unless there's some long term light/tunnel situation coming up (which I'm very aware there isn't), then it's just going to stay stuck in a cycle of:

1. Find new settlement with new friendly people
2. win trust of new people, get false sense of security
3. Big Bad arrives, kills most new people and one old favourite.
4. Run away! Eventually kill Big Bad
5. See 1.

When there's so much other great TV being made and I already don't have enough hours to watch it all... I'm kinda over it. 

Yep, agree. At least GoT has had a few huge payoffs for all the misery they've presented.

thumpingrug

BigLicks67 said:

thumpingrug said:

BigBearKris said:

Deijavoo said:

...can people who want to avoid spoilers just not click on this thread? 

This. The very purpose of the thread is to discuss the latest episodes and story around it.

Agree, but some of you seem to have an ability to watch very very early, so spoilers should only be posted after the official air time for the show.  After that I agree fair game.   Glad they didn't wimp out from the comic.

Fox/Sky show it at 2.30am on the Monday morning (similar to GOT) I don't know if you are aware of this?

Yer, but... I has to go to work so watching it at 2.30 isnt an option.  I suggest no spoilers on the day of broadcast.  So by Tuesday its fine to say who got batted 

Col_Decker

stickyfiddle said:

The whole show has been misery porn for a while. The problem is, unless there's some long term light/tunnel situation coming up (which I'm very aware there isn't), then it's just going to stay stuck in a cycle of:

1. Find new settlement with new friendly people
2. win trust of new people, get false sense of security
3. Big Bad arrives, kills most new people and one old favourite.
4. Run away! Eventually kill Big Bad
5. See 1.

When there's so much other great TV being made and I already don't have enough hours to watch it all... I'm kinda over it. 

Yup.

That's it pretty much summed up for me. After the Terminus plot it seemed to just be a case of rewind / repeat. Mrs D wants to start watching it again though so no doubt I'll watch it by proxy

Chuffola

sweepy said:

There were rumours that Henry Rollins was going to play Negan, that would have been incredibly intense and actually scary 

The comic book character of Negan was based on Rollins - he wasn't ever tagged to play him in the TV series. 

boogieman

Chuffola said:

sweepy said:

There were rumours that Henry Rollins was going to play Negan, that would have been incredibly intense and actually scary 

The comic book character of Negan was based on Rollins - he wasn't ever tagged to play him in the TV series. 

I saw Rollins in a sci fi film on the horror channel the other day, he was bloody terrible. The guy already playing Negan is an excellent choice IMO.

octatonic

boogieman said:

Chuffola said:

sweepy said:

There were rumours that Henry Rollins was going to play Negan, that would have been incredibly intense and actually scary 

The comic book character of Negan was based on Rollins - he wasn't ever tagged to play him in the TV series. 

I saw Rollins in a sci fi film on the horror channel the other day, he was bloody terrible. The guy already playing Negan is an excellent choice IMO.

Would that be Johnny Mnemonic?

jpttaylor

stickyfiddle said:

The whole show has been misery porn for a while. The problem is, unless there's some long term light/tunnel situation coming up (which I'm very aware there isn't), then it's just going to stay stuck in a cycle of:

1. Find new settlement with new friendly people
2. win trust of new people, get false sense of security
3. Big Bad arrives, kills most new people and one old favourite.
4. Run away! Eventually kill Big Bad
5. See 1.

When there's so much other great TV being made and I already don't have enough hours to watch it all... I'm kinda over it. 

I stopped after season 4 I think based purely on this. I've no idea how the showrunners think they can get away with a rinse and repeat formula that no other series would dare to use. In 7 series of the show, albeit judging from what other people have said about it, there hasn't been any progression in character development.

Based on what's been said about the last episode, the writer's are finally showing that they've lost control the plot or that they have a sizeable amount of contempt for their audience. With the amount of great TV there is on Netflix, I'm wondering why people keep watching for a payoff that probably isn't coming.

Flink_Poyd

thumpingrug said:

BigLicks67 said:

thumpingrug said:

BigBearKris said:

Deijavoo said:

...can people who want to avoid spoilers just not click on this thread? 

This. The very purpose of the thread is to discuss the latest episodes and story around it.

Agree, but some of you seem to have an ability to watch very very early, so spoilers should only be posted after the official air time for the show.  After that I agree fair game.   Glad they didn't wimp out from the comic.

Fox/Sky show it at 2.30am on the Monday morning (similar to GOT) I don't know if you are aware of this?

Yer, but... I has to go to work so watching it at 2.30 isnt an option.  I suggest no spoilers on the day of broadcast.  So by Tuesday its fine to say who got batted 

Sorry but this is a thread for discussing it when it's been aired however and whenever you watch it. If you don't want the spoilers don't read the thread until you've watched it, that's what I do. 
 Glenn and Abraham 

octatonic

I'm actually wondering if I have PTSD after watching this show.

boogieman

octatonic said:

boogieman said:

Chuffola said:

sweepy said:

There were rumours that Henry Rollins was going to play Negan, that would have been incredibly intense and actually scary 

The comic book character of Negan was based on Rollins - he wasn't ever tagged to play him in the TV series. 

I saw Rollins in a sci fi film on the horror channel the other day, he was bloody terrible. The guy already playing Negan is an excellent choice IMO.

Would that be Johnny Mnemonic?

The film? It was The Devil's Tomb. It was B grade straight to dvd stuff but it had some semi decent actors in it; Ray Winstone, Cuba Gooding Jnr.  Ol' Henry was embarrassingly bad though.

Chuffola

I don't get the hate for TWD -  there's been plenty of character development and new, interesting characters.

It's a tough watch sometimes but the acting is top-notch and it is, after all, a post-apocalyptic setting so unlikely to be uplifting. I can understand that isn't everyone's bag, but I think the criticism of rinse/ repeat is unfair.

As things stand I'm interested to see how the other settlements that have been brought into the story will interact and how the hell Rick's people get over this.

I think it's excellent TV.

boogieman

 Just spotted Negan in tonight's episode of Westworld. 

BigBearKris

Chuffola said:

I don't get the hate for TWD -  there's been plenty of character development and new, interesting characters.

It's a tough watch sometimes but the acting is top-notch and it is, after all, a post-apocalyptic setting so unlikely to be uplifting. I can understand that isn't everyone's bag, but I think the criticism of rinse/ repeat is unfair.

As things stand I'm interested to see how the other settlements that have been brought into the story will interact and how the hell Rick's people get over this.

I think it's excellent TV.

Wisdom. 

It's flippin' show about zombies! What else would one want? More love stories? Car chases? 

It has some decent character development  (take a look what's happened with poor old Rick) and pretty good storyline too. In my opinion show has evolved and much improved in comparison to 3rd and 4th series. 

Also - I really don't expect it to be so deep and mind challenging as some other quality TV productions. It's supposed to be different and does the job well I think. 

octatonic

Chuffola said:

I don't get the hate for TWD -  there's been plenty of character development and new, interesting characters.

It's a tough watch sometimes but the acting is top-notch and it is, after all, a post-apocalyptic setting so unlikely to be uplifting. I can understand that isn't everyone's bag, but I think the criticism of rinse/ repeat is unfair.

As things stand I'm interested to see how the other settlements that have been brought into the story will interact and how the hell Rick's people get over this.

I think it's excellent TV.

I think it is excellent too.
I just think it is becoming an ordeal to get through it.

thermionic

I often wonder why I haven't got tired of it due to the repeating plotlines of idyllic settlement followed by baddies. I think with a post-apocalyptic scenario you need a ray of hope - like the scientific base of the first series, or the misguided trek to DC. Sometimes it seems Rick & co are destined to wander rural Georgia for eternity, with each band of survivors they encounter more brutalised, violent and selfish than the last. Still, it somehow keeps my attention for another series.

littlegreenman

thermionic said:

I often wonder why I haven't got tired of it due to the repeating plotlines of idyllic settlement followed by baddies. I think with a post-apocalyptic scenario you need a ray of hope - like the scientific base of the first series, or the misguided trek to DC. Sometimes it seems Rick & co are destined to wander rural Georgia for eternity, with each band of survivors they encounter more brutalised, violent and selfish than the last. Still, it somehow keeps my attention for another series.

I think that's part of the appeal. In a genuinely post-apocalyptic world that's the most likely outcome, as resources dwindle we become more and more likely to revert to survival of the fittest, or in modern human terms, the most violent and brutal. TWD is merely depicting what we could become under the right/ wrong circumstances, regardless of zombies, I mean Walkers.

The lack of any ray of hope, that's exactly how it would be. Only how to get the next meal, next fire, next drink of water.

It seems to be already slowly starting to happen between some of the Central Asian states over water and electricity!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-37755985

3 meals away from Anarchy, as someone once said.

thermionic

I agree with you there, see The Road for another extreme example. However, it does run the risk of becoming a little tedious as the seasons go on - the point has been made several times now. It's a credit to the writing and production that I'm still interested though.