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BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13156
Uh, so I just ordered a Pedaltrain Classic 1, and a Voodoo Labs Pedal Power 2 plus...

What's going on it?

SmoothHound Receiver
Polytune
Ampeg SCR-DI

As a separate loop using the Amp's FX send/return:
TC Corona Chorus
TC The Prophet Delay
TC Skysurfer Reverb


Now, I've got a couple of OD/Fuzz pedals that I would like to play with - so after the Ampeg SCR-DI and out to Amp's main input I'm going to experiment with:

Bad Monkey
EH Nano Muff

Could be interesting, this..

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  • prowlaprowla Frets: 862
    I've got a Pedaltrain, but the Voodoo power supplies are bloddy expensive, so I've got a cheapie running off a wall-wart for the moment.

    Mine's got a Roberts tuner, a SansAmp, an Aguilar octave divider, a Space Echo, a Boss NS, a Boss overdrive, a Boss Auto-Wah (actually I want the SYB-5 synth pedal, so that's just a filler there) and a Boss chorus.

    Patch/interconnect cables can be a challenge; I have a mix of ones I wired myself with "pancake" jacks (ie. as flat as possible), some Fender branded ones and some straight & dogleg jack-jack dual plugs.

    Have you seen the layout app on the Pedaltrain website? It can be handy figuring out where things might fit.

    I also want to put a patch panel on mine: 1 jack input & 2 jack outputs (as I split the signal to 2 amps); that way I won't be connecting outputs directly to pedals.
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13156
    Thanks for the tips, @prowla. At the moment I'm reusing guitar pedals to start it off (apart from the Ampeg DI of course) and may well replace others later.

    Tempted by a synth pedal, and also by a decent compressor and EQ.

    The Corona chorus is apparently good on bass - if not I may swap that out. I guess it's a case of suck it and see!

    Looking forward to the challenge of patching this up.

    Oh, and yes the voodoo power supply was very spendy, but I wanted to avoid issues with grounding and signal noise from a chain..
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  • JezWyndJezWynd Frets: 2125
    edited March 2017
    Try the ehx bass micro synth. I've just scored one and it's an incredible tool. Helps to have a comp before and delay after (ehx site mentions this) to smooth out the ragged edges.

    The other essential bass pedal imo is the Dynamic Filter, it gives the attack more variation.

    This is the current line up, works with guitar and bass, Dynamic Filter is first (out of shot) and a DD-7 last, set to hold function to build loops -


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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13156
    Thanks @JezWynd - the micro synth does look cool! Am thinking about a compressor anyway. Will have to have a look at the dynamic filter.. 


    I'm gonna need a bigger board.....
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  • Winny_PoohWinny_Pooh Frets: 2585
    Muffs can be meh... comp is a must, chorus optional 

    Here's mine
    http://i.imgur.com/yFN2CT5.jpg

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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13156
    edited March 2017
    I do have built in comp on my EICH head, which is actually very good.

    But I do want a good pedal comp for position in the signal chain.

    Any suggestions for a good bass compressor (apart from the markbass compressors which is huge and very spendy!!) ?
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  • Winny_PoohWinny_Pooh Frets: 2585
    edited March 2017
    That ovnilab website has loads of reviews. I found a decent deal on a pale green and he rated the diamond, mxr and a handful of other small format pedals.
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13156
    That ovnilab website has loads of reviews. I found a decent deal on a pale green and he rated the diamond, mxr and a handful of other small format pedals.
    Thanks for that - will check it out.

    I'm trying to keep it relatively simple, honest!
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  • Nice.

    Have you tried a Darkglass Vintage yet? They're phenomenal with a Precision for all sorts of sounds from light grit to roaring overdrive. 


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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13156
    Nice.

    Have you tried a Darkglass Vintage yet? They're phenomenal with a Precision for all sorts of sounds from light grit to roaring overdrive. 


    No, I've not. And I'd like to. 

    In fact, I've got to be careful I don't just end up buying every decent drive or preamp out there. I'd like to try the Tonehammer pedal, the Mesa Subway pedal, a whole bunch of Darkglass and others.. 

    I will acquire them a bit at a time so I can try out each one properly - otherwise I will just sit there going "oooh shiny things!"
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  • fretmeisterfretmeister Frets: 9143
    B3K, MXR Envelope Filter, Digitech Bass Synth Wah.

    Supersymmetry compressor, or the Empress.
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  • I've got the Tone Hammer and it is excellent too. Can really do that old school warm and fat sound on the drive channel but it's not really a 2 channel preamp due to volume differences. It's also a great clean Pre on the other channel. Just a great pedal really though I'd happily have one of each mode in separate pedals if they ever did that

    I want to try the Mesa DI too.
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13156
    I must admit the Tonehammer is a tempting next purchase. It's either that or a B3K. Oh, and a Compressor. 

    Damn you, gods of pedal GAS!
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  • prowlaprowla Frets: 862
    prowla said:
    I've got a Pedaltrain, but the Voodoo power supplies are bloddy expensive, so I've got a cheapie running off a wall-wart for the moment.

    Mine's got a Roberts tuner, a SansAmp, an Aguilar octave divider, a Space Echo, a Boss NS, a Boss overdrive, a Boss Auto-Wah (actually I want the SYB-5 synth pedal, so that's just a filler there) and a Boss chorus.

    Patch/interconnect cables can be a challenge; I have a mix of ones I wired myself with "pancake" jacks (ie. as flat as possible), some Fender branded ones and some straight & dogleg jack-jack dual plugs.

    Have you seen the layout app on the Pedaltrain website? It can be handy figuring out where things might fit.

    I also want to put a patch panel on mine: 1 jack input & 2 jack outputs (as I split the signal to 2 amps); that way I won't be connecting outputs directly to pedals.
    Slight change of plan - I've been out today and had a go on an SYB-5 pedal and it can't handle even vaguely fast playing. You can play a note and let it hang there, but as soon as you try and strike a rhythm it just plain doesn't work.

    I figure it would work with bass pedals, where you just hit and hold a note, but then you'd probably have them MIDI connected to a synth anyway.
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  • fretmeisterfretmeister Frets: 9143
    The SYB pedals are shite.

    Digitech BSW is far better, and tracks perfectly.
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  • Good to know, already got the BSW but have been sticking the Boss ones on my eBay watch list for a while.
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  • prowlaprowla Frets: 862
    I might try an Electro Harmonix one and see what they are like.
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13156
    What's the Dod FX25 like as a cheap envelope filter?
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 30910

    The SYB pedals are shite.

    Digitech BSW is far better, and tracks perfectly.
    Agreed. I found a work-around with the SYB-3 was to run it in the loop of a LS-2 set to parallel blend, but it was a bit of a sticking-plaster solution that just disguised how badly the SYB tracked really…

    I also had a Synth Wah - not even the bass one - which was miles better.

    What's the Dod FX25 like as a cheap envelope filter?
    The original two-knob one is brilliant - it's not subtle, and it's rather touchy about the settings, but it's got a really great growl at the bottom end as it sweeps down. The later three-knob one should be better on paper since you can control the blend, but it just doesn't sound as good.
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • fretmeisterfretmeister Frets: 9143
    What's the Dod FX25 like as a cheap envelope filter?
    Deffo go for the 2 knob. The3 is rubbish.

    Or again, go for the BSW as it does a good standard Envelope filter too.
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13156
    What's the Dod FX25 like as a cheap envelope filter?
    Deffo go for the 2 knob. The3 is rubbish.

    Or again, go for the BSW as it does a good standard Envelope filter too.
    Been watching some vids - I like the BSW. Sounds good...
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  • BSW also does a decent octave
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  • funkyfrazfunkyfraz Frets: 55
    The SYB pedals are shite.

    Digitech BSW is far better, and tracks perfectly.
    Yep, i found the syb5 pretty much unusable further than the 'mucking about in the bedroom' stage.

    @bridgehouse Don't rule out a zoom ms60b. For one boss sized pedal you you could easily pop it at the front of your line and use it for your compressor, tuner and synth. The synth on it is quite basic but it tracks brilliantly.  I don't use alot of compression but according to takbass, the comps are very good too. 
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13156
    funkyfraz said:
    The SYB pedals are shite.

    Digitech BSW is far better, and tracks perfectly.
    Yep, i found the syb5 pretty much unusable further than the 'mucking about in the bedroom' stage.

    @bridgehouse Don't rule out a zoom ms60b. For one boss sized pedal you you could easily pop it at the front of your line and use it for your compressor, tuner and synth. The synth on it is quite basic but it tracks brilliantly.  I don't use alot of compression but according to takbass, the comps are very good too. 
    Good call - I'll have a look at that.
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  • JezWyndJezWynd Frets: 2125
    edited March 2017
    What's the Dod FX25 like as a cheap envelope filter?
    The sound it creates is excellent (don't believe the stuff about orig dark green ver being superior) but you do have to 'play the pedal' and it is something of a one trick pony. I recently moved mine on after getting the Mooer @ Wah which is digital and combines a couple of flavours of envelope filter as well as being an auto wah.
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13156
    Well, first lot of bits are here - will post piccies a bit later.. there's quite a bit of stuff tho!
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  • JezWyndJezWynd Frets: 2125
    If you're dipping a first toe into bass fx, I'd go with the ehx bass micro synth first - it's a fantastic fuzz and distortion pedal as well as having envelope shaping, attack control etc.
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  • guitarfishbayguitarfishbay Frets: 6786
    edited March 2017
    Goes without saying you also need to try an octave pedal at some point.

    So far my favourite is the MXR Bass Octave Deluxe but I really want to try a Cog.

    Check their site out - http://www.cogeffects.co.uk/stock-pedals.php 

    They do custom finishes and custom pedals as well http://www.cogeffects.co.uk/custom.php
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  • prowlaprowla Frets: 862
    I've got an Aguilar octave pedal; the main thing which made it stand out was that it kept the character of the original note.
    It sometimes doesn't track though, especially with very trebley sound and a bit of fret rattle.
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 13156
    edited March 2017
    Pedalboard is coming along now:




    Signal chain so far:

    Smooth hound receiver => polytune => Boss LS-2 (Which I'm using in A+B Mix and the 'Mix' is the Bad Monkey) => Ampeg SCR-DI 

    Separate FX Loop Chain:

    Corona Chorus => The Prophet => Skysurfer

    My thoughts so far:

    - I like the Pedaltrain board
    - I like the Voodoo Pedal Power
    - The LS-2 is very flexible, and I like the idea of mixing dry and FX sounds for bass
    - Bad Monkey is interesting - if you dime the Low + High, add a tiny bit of gain and set the level, you get an interesting, bright boost (when mixed 50/50 with dry)
    - The Ampeg SCR-DI is really really good. The Ampeg sound of the preamp is spot on. Better than the PF500 when I tried that.
    - The Scrambler is usable with low drive - nice crunch. Gets messy when dimed.
    - Corona is a pretty good bass chorus
    - Prophet + Skysurfer are fine for the limited delay and reverb I will use on bass

    For the gaps, I have space inbetween the LS-2 and the SCR-DI for a Compressor, and a B3K

    In the LS-2 loop, I will probably keep Bad Monkey, and add in an envelope filter/bass synth - I like the idea of mixing this with dry to keep the low end.


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