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It's also annoying to have to build a separate fx return in to every single patch to practice along to music rather than having a simple 3.5mm aux in like loads of other (cheaper) devices have.
I love my Helix and the options it offers are brilliant. There are workarounds for almost every possible scenario but I still maintain it's a shame that it doesn't have an aux in specifically designed to simply plug and play along to music/metronome.
I never ever use the aux input for guitars. It would be great if in a future update there could be a global option to mix this straight to output for playing along to jam tracks.
https://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/57776/handsomerik/p1
Right now I could get an amplifire 12 AND a Bassbreaker 15 for less than a helix.
And as good as the helix appears to be, nearly
£1,300 is a ton of money to be dropping on a digital device that will date pretty quickly.
Maybe the headrush is what I'm looking for. Let's see.....
Though the Headrush could be great value for money for sure.
Interesting pedal for sure, i think it'll really open up the Multi Fx market again like back in the 90's with the GT5, Zoom 4040, Digitech RP6. Technology made super fast progress at that point, i think thats about to happen all over again.
E.g. My 10 year old pod xt is worth buttons. My 25 year old mesa is worth a lot more than I paid for it.
Besides, high-end digital units do far more than your Mesa can. They're not really comparable in terms of function.
For example, the Vox Tonelab SE came out in 2004. Although 'old tech' now, it was way ahead of its time and is still very highly regarded because it still sounds good and has great gigging functionality/simplicity. What's interesting is that these units (and its successor, the smaller TLLE) are still commanding very healthy used prices. When new the TLSE was around £225, but in good condition with the original Vox gig bag these are still being sold (actual) for £150-200. Also, the Vox VC12 floor controllers for the original 'Blue' Valvetronix amps (and the limited edition VTX150 Neodymium Pro) sold for around £225 when new, and because these controllers are very scarce, are still commanding £175 - 200 used. A TLLE in good condition still commands £150 or more.
And The Hughes & Kettner Zentera with the Z-Stage board has almost a cult following with owners very rarely selling them, but with these all digital amps commanding top prices when they do come up.
I'm sure there are other examples too.
For someone like me it would get relatively little use: I don't normally record stuff, I only use a handful of sounds, I don't gig that often, home use would be limited. So, in my case, a Helix/ Headrush would be an expensive purchase to gather a lot of dust.
I guess if you want to buy one to see how you get on with the notion you are likely to move it on but not lose money then I guess you need to wait for used ones and benefit from their drop in value.
If I was interested I would still feel very anxious about having a £900 digital unit at my feet in a pub. Let's say my current pedal board got beer poured on it and or a 20 stone punter crash landed I would be very unlucky if everything was trashed as it's eight separate devices on a board ( slatted so beer can pour through).
In the USA it's going to be $999 and April in store.
So expect it to cost £999 over here then! (or more, thanks Brexit!)
Also...he seemed to be dodging/glossing over some questions in that video. Not sure whether he didn't know, but the guy was clearly asking what the "quad-core processor" is in it, and his explanation of "Eleven HD Expanded" was pretty anaemic.
Yeah, the routing's based on templates rather than "freehand" routing like the Helix. I'd imagine that could be slightly annoying, although seeing the interface I think it might actually be possible to get four amps running simultaneously (albeit only with two actual signal paths).
While I was 100% gung-ho for this unit, my situation's changed somewhat now and Helix Native is the frontrunner for me. The idea of being able to get rid of a good 40% of the clutter in my office and run with a single pedal (the TC Mimiq) into my interface is simply too attractive.
I play guitar and take photos of stuff. I also like beans on toast.
When it comes to home use, the announcement of Helix Native has changed the game.
You're right, though - all the info they're putting out at the moment is pretty much meaningless beyond "we've fixed the problems everyone reported with the Eleven Rack". Loads of people have asked about spillover across all their social media accounts, and they still refuse to answer.
This dents my confidence in the product as a whole.
You're 100% right, though; for home use, Helix Native has totally changed the landscape. It'll depend on how CPU-intensive it is to a certain degree, but when DAWs like Reaper allow you to offload VST processing to another machine that's easily solved.