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stickyfiddle · October 2017

monquixote said:

stickyfiddle said:

I'm biased towards international delivery options, but Thomann can get fucked. Andertons are great in my experience. Gear4music also worthy of note.

Why is that may I ask?

I'm still waiting for a delivery (Empress Echosystem and TC Ditto) from Thomann. £50 for international shipping (not a big deal as I'm not paying VAT) but it's taken 3 weeks and still no sign - DHL have handed it off to our local snail mail, despite DHL being international courier with probably the biggest profile out here. So it's a nightmare. The same thing happened last time I used Thomann but they were the only ones with the Echosystem in stock at the time. It's since come in and out of stock with Andertons and Gear4music, both of whom are great.

Equally, on the same day I ordered a PSU from Andertons. £20 delivery with UPS and it came in 3 days. And when I ordered a Helix from G4M that was a similar story - £40 or so shipping but arrived well within a week.

Just makes me question why I'm paying so much to Thomann. Presumably they're having good company lunches...

dangriffiths · October 2017

I’ve had no issue with any of those guys but I have had pricey next day delivery where it has come late a few times with other retailers.

As it often isn’t their fault I always ask for a refund and they claim from the shipping company. Worth trying each time.

Ive started using UPS for sending stuff sold on here as it can be picked up same day for next day so no more visiting the post office.

monquixote · October 2017

thomasw88 said:

In 3 years what will they be worth.. Buy a few nice pedals that get the sounds you want you'll be likely to lose less money..

While this is true I've never regretted buying really good bits of digital kit like the POD2.

What does make me cringe is when you see overly blingy far east metal guitars that cost about a grand struggling to make £200 six months later.

meltedbuzzbox · October 2017

You know where yamaha are based right?

monquixote · October 2017

meltedbuzzbox said:

You know where yamaha are based right?

Yep, but a helix isn't a blingy metal guitar.

Jonathanthomas83 · October 2017

thomasw88 said:

In 3 years what will they be worth.. Buy a few nice pedals that get the sounds you want you'll be likely to lose less money..

That’s true if you can get the sounds you want. I always found something lacking, now I don’t.

mixolyd · October 2017

mixolyd said:

Some time with the Helix Native trial has put me off of the idea of ever buying a Helix unit, great deal though it may be. There are some amazing tones in Helix but they aren’t the tones I want and require much faffing around with IR’s, Hi Cut & Lo Cut to carve out of the fizzy, farty mess that surrounds the bits I want.

There is a core of great sound in there which will suit the players who are after the tones that Helix is better at, but that’s not me. I recommend trying Helix Native as a much cheaper way of test driving the platform in terms of time and energy.

Replying to my own comment having been introduced to Native through a DI box instead of straight into the audio interface: a sizeable improvement with much of the fizz and fuzz gone. Probably still not for me as I’m not a PC-lover but it has rehabilitated Helix in my eyes.

So don’t be put off by Native sounding bad: it needs an interface designed for guitars or a DI box to sound right.

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