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  • Danny1969Danny1969 Frets: 10357
    Ha ha, I couldn't see what it was then I realised it's a fan strapped to keep it cool :) In fairness many other brands like RCF and EV will thermally cut out if too hot 

    The first generation ones are actually very reliable if used within their capabilities    
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  • Danny1969Danny1969 Frets: 10357
    ICBM said:
    Danny1969 said:

    When it comes to small pub PA you can do a lot worse than a set of 2nd hand set of Mackie SRM450's
    True. Wharfedale "Pro" series are worse.
    Sadly what once was a proud name in quality passive loudspeakers is now just a moniker for any old OEM crap. Exactly the same story as Goodmans  ..... 
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  • TeacherphilTeacherphil Frets: 128
    We went for the behringer Eurolive 112d pair and they are good but to be honest having separate power cables for 2 speakers and a monitor can be a pain in the arse. We don't even use the mixer we bought anymore. Just use the PA for vocals straight into the speakers. If I was to buy one again for pub gigs I'd buy a second hand power amp and mixer in one. Then a couple of passive PA speakers and a passive monitor. Something like this:
    https://m.thomann.de/gb/phonic_powerpod_1062r_bundle.htm?o=8&search=1500317849

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  • p90foolp90fool Frets: 31368
    Does anyone have experience of the JBL Eon One?  
    Sorry to bump an old thread but I've just ordered one of these, I'll let you know how I get on @djspecialist ;
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  • vizviz Frets: 10645
    edited December 2017
    simonk said:


    Second hand PA gear can obviously be had for a lot cheaper, in my experience though it's usually battered, big, heavy, old and ugly.
    Yeah we bought ours second hand to blend in with the band members. 
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  • p90fool said:
    Does anyone have experience of the JBL Eon One?  
    Sorry to bump an old thread but I've just ordered one of these, I'll let you know how I get on @djspecialist ;
    My band now has a pair of these, which we've used in two gigs so far: one in a very large marquee, and the other indoors in a large, high-glass-ceilinged room (whose acoustics as you can imagine are pretty awful).

    In both cases, the JBLs sounded really good - at least when I was out front listening to other bands.  I'd be interested to hear your opinion once you've given yours a spin.
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  • NeillNeill Frets: 941
    FWIW we had a couple of Alto speakers from new and I recall one of them had to be replaced almost straight away, though I can't remember why.  The new one worked fine but the indicator light failed immediately we couldn't be bothered to send it back again.  It was a bad buy, I think you get what you pay for.  Previously we hired pro stuff and the difference was startling.
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  • p90foolp90fool Frets: 31368
    p90fool said:
    Does anyone have experience of the JBL Eon One?  
    Sorry to bump an old thread but I've just ordered one of these, I'll let you know how I get on @djspecialist ;
    My band now has a pair of these, which we've used in two gigs so far: one in a very large marquee, and the other indoors in a large, high-glass-ceilinged room (whose acoustics as you can imagine are pretty awful).

    In both cases, the JBLs sounded really good - at least when I was out front listening to other bands.  I'd be interested to hear your opinion once you've given yours a spin.
    It's just arrived, just bunged Message of Love by Jimi Hendrix through it briefly at home and it sounds fantastic.

    Of course that tells me precisely zero about how it will perform at a gig, but I'm sure my neighbours enjoyed it :)

    What's the lineup of your band? I bought this for my acoustic duo, but am wondering if just one of them will work with my laid-back 5-piece as a vocal only PA.
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  • andyozandyoz Frets: 718
    Yamaha gear at this price point is hard to beat.  Also, they have a 7 year warranty and actually honour it.
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  • JayGeeJayGee Frets: 1254
    andyoz said:
    Yamaha gear at this price point is hard to beat.  Also, they have a 7 year warranty and actually honour it.
    We have a pair of Yamaha DXR12s and they’re really very nice indeed. Haven’t had cause to call on the warranty (and hopefully won’t!) but it’s nice to know it’s there... 
    Don't ask me, I just play the damned thing...
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  • p90fool said:

    What's the lineup of your band?
    Drums, bass, electric guitar, (second electric guitar or keyboard), vocals.

    I was initially skeptical it would deal with that, but it seems to perform really well.  As I said, I haven't had chance to stand out front and hear our band play through it, but one of the other bands at our recent gig had exactly the same lineup and sounded great.
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  • p90foolp90fool Frets: 31368
    p90fool said:

    What's the lineup of your band?
    Drums, bass, electric guitar, (second electric guitar or keyboard), vocals.

    I was initially skeptical it would deal with that, but it seems to perform really well.  As I said, I haven't had chance to stand out front and hear our band play through it, but one of the other bands at our recent gig had exactly the same lineup and sounded great.
    That's pretty much the same as ours. I'm currently using a couple of 12" powered cabs on poles as a vocal PA, which occasionally has just a touch of guitar in it for spread and very rarely a hint of bass drum, and the whole thing is never pushed hard. 

    I'm kind of hoping for portability's sake that one Eon One will suffice for that, but if not I'll just get another. 
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  • We bought a Yamaha EMX 88s PA (powered mixer and 2 12 inch speakers, together with some carlsbro powered monitors (1 powered and a slave) for £300 and it does us fine for small venues - most bigger places have their own PA. Buying used can save lots of money but carries the usual caveats. Generally, good quality gear (eg Yamaha, Electrovoice, RCF, Allen & Heath etc) which hasn't been thrashed can be picked up for not a lot of cash.
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  • Check your local Gumtree or Facebook Marketplace, you can often pick up PA gear dirt cheap as people tend to want to offload it quickly if it's not getting used. I picked up a pair of Peavey Pro 15s and a Phonic 300w+300w powered mixer for £150 with cables. It was initially bought as a backup, but it's done a good few gigs since I got it. If it was getting used more, I'd probably go for Mackie powered speakers, but the gear I've got works more than well enough for the moment.
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  • p90foolp90fool Frets: 31368
    Well I gigged the JBL Eon One last night in a 4-piece consisting of guitar, bass, drums and female vocals.

    One vocal mic, and guitar cab and bass drum mics just as a bit of backup, via an old Yamaha mixer. I had one of our usual 12" powered cabs on a pole wired up but switched off just in case we needed it but we didn't at all.

    The JBL sounded great, really crisp, intelligible vocals with loads of power in reserve and we had it off to one side a little bit but basically behind us with no feedback issues at all, not even a hint of it. 

    It wasn't a big crowd last night so as a band we didn't feel swamped by ambient noise, and in those circumstances a single Eon One was more than adequate. I'll continue to bring backup powered cabs for rowdier gigs, but for most of the smaller bar work and our acoustic trio it'll be fine on its own. 
    If the gig diary fills up in the way it has done over the few years I'll buy another one in the spring.  

    I'm very impressed, especially with its broad spread of sound. Our singer likes the security of IEMs, but if the batteries died mid song she'd be able to hear herself perfectly well enough. 

    It's the best £750 I've ever spent on band gear tbh.  
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