Line 6 Helix HX effects unit leaked....

rich75 · January 2018

Kebabkid said:

So, for the guys that already have the Helix and have used it with an amp, are you saying that by disabling the amp modelling, speaker sims etc and using it as an 'FX only' unit there's a perceived change in tone or tone suck?

That's how I used mine for the first couple of gigs I did with it before switching to FRFR and I didn't notice any tone suck. I thought it integrated really well with my amp. It took a while playing round with the level settings for the fx loops etc. when first setting it up for 4CM but once that was done I was really happy with it.

Sporky · January 2018

Ah, gotcha - I had not thought of using a preamp model instead of the amp's preamp.

John_A · January 2018

meltedbuzzbox said:

Cabicular said:

They do as far as I could tell

Eeeeek. That's the helix's weakest point for me, being an effects only board

In what way? When I first got mine that's how I used it, and it sounded great

Cabicular · January 2018

John_A said:

meltedbuzzbox said:

Cabicular said:

They do as far as I could tell

Eeeeek. That's the helix's weakest point for me, being an effects only board

In what way? When I first got mine that's how I used it, and it sounded great

Yeah I’m not sure what you think this device is @meltedbuzzbox ;

meltedbuzzbox · January 2018

Cabicular said:

John_A said:

meltedbuzzbox said:

Cabicular said:

They do as far as I could tell

Eeeeek. That's the helix's weakest point for me, being an effects only board

In what way? When I first got mine that's how I used it, and it sounded great

Yeah I’m not sure what you think this device is @meltedbuzzbox ;

The helix/helix lt running as an effects only pedal board through an amp is what I am referring to

John_A · January 2018

^ and what's wrong with it in that application? Sounds great to me

mattismetal · January 2018

Question on the outputs in 4cm
I guess one of the features is that a signal with ir can be sent straight to desk/pa while another signal goes back to the amp return.
If you wanted to send the stereo outputs to the pa. Would you then use a send for the amp on a parallel path?
Or would you be limited to mono if running it both ways?

meltedbuzzbox · January 2018

John_A said:

^ and what's wrong with it in that application? Sounds great to me

It doesn't to me.

gibsongretschfan · January 2018

Always find it strange when guys hang around in threads about bits of kit they don’t rate just to tell other how shit they think it is

Winny_Pooh · January 2018

gibsongretschfan said:

Always find it strange when guys hang around in threads about bits of kit they don’t rate just to tell other how shit they think it is

I don't, it's a discussion after all. Not like he's being an Ro_S about it or anything.

impmann · January 2018

Winny_Pooh said:

gibsongretschfan said:

Always find it strange when guys hang around in threads about bits of kit they don’t rate just to tell other how shit they think it is

I don't, it's a discussion after all. Not like he's being an Ro_S about it or anything.

FWIW - I'd agree about the effects in Helix, the drives in particular are the usual Line6 fayre, which sound "ok" but they aren't great and sound a bit flat compared to real analogue boxes. To be fair to Line6, they are useable but I'm not a fan.

But like @meltedbuzzbox I've found it works great as an amp modeller for recording - I've been plugging my pedal board into it for recording and it sounds great as platform (Vox and HiWatt models).

Teetonetal · January 2018

gibsongretschfan said:

Always find it strange when guys hang around in threads about bits of kit they don’t rate just to tell other how shit they think it is

Er. As a helix owner I think @meltedbuzzbox is most definitely entited to his opinion and can talk about his way of using helix, what works for him and what doesn't.

meltedbuzzbox · January 2018

gibsongretschfan said:

Always find it strange when guys hang around in threads about bits of kit they don’t rate just to tell other how shit they think it is

Its a forum?

I love the device as a recording interface (after tweaking), I'm pleased as punch that the m series stuff has been added.

I don't think the effects are as amazing as some people make them out to be (and judging from the amount of people that utilise the fx loops I might not be the only one), but that's my opinion and I am entitled to it.

Sporky · January 2018

meltedbuzzbox said:

I don't think the effects are as amazing as some people make them out to be (and judging from the amount of people that utilise the fx loops I might not be the only one), but that's my opinion and I am entitled to it.

The individual blocks are fine. For me it's how you can combine them with the multiple paths that elevates the Helix above much of the competition (full fat AxeFX aside, for example).

meltedbuzzbox · January 2018

Sporky said:

meltedbuzzbox said:

I don't think the effects are as amazing as some people make them out to be (and judging from the amount of people that utilise the fx loops I might not be the only one), but that's my opinion and I am entitled to it.

The individual blocks are fine. For me it's how you can combine them with the multiple paths that elevates the Helix above much of the competition (full fat AxeFX aside, for example).

It's flexibility is brilliant. Fudging the fx loop has been handy for dry/wet recordings.

The thing is I still have my pedals/pedalboard as I was wary about getting a helix again. I do have the luxury of comparison and unsurprisingly I do prefer my pedals over the helix effects. But that's expected after years of flipping and experimenting etc. And as mentioned above they come in handy with the loop.

I'm not knocking all the inbuilt effects but equally I do think a few are sub par. Particularly drives, but drives seem to be a very personal thing. Hence why everyone has a different drive pedal in the show us your pedal board thread.

I've not used an axefx so I can't comment on that.

Sporky · January 2018

I found a couple of drives on the Helix that do what I need so I was ok. The Rat and the Industrial Fuzz cover most of what I need.

jellybelly · January 2018

My main drives are a Rat, Timmy and Soul Food, so I’m really hopeful this will tick those boxes. Going to have to AB them all though - selling up then having to buy it all back isn’t something I want to do!

Sporky · January 2018

jellybelly said:

Going to have to AB them all though

Why?

The Helix ones will either be good enough to use or won't. This just sounds like you're deliberately setting yourself up for disappointment.

gibsongretschfan · January 2018

jellybelly said:

My main drives are a Rat, Timmy and Soul Food, so I’m really hopeful this will tick those boxes. Going to have to AB them all though - selling up then having to buy it all back isn’t something I want to do!

Don’t A/B

just try the digital ones and if they are good enough you’ll know soon enough

A/B’ing will melt your brain

jellybelly · January 2018

Sporky said:

jellybelly said:

Going to have to AB them all though

Why?

The Helix ones will either be good enough to use or won't. This just sounds like you're deliberately setting yourself up for disappointment.

gibsongretschfan said:

jellybelly said:

My main drives are a Rat, Timmy and Soul Food, so I’m really hopeful this will tick those boxes. Going to have to AB them all though - selling up then having to buy it all back isn’t something I want to do!

Don’t A/B

just try the digital ones and if they are good enough you’ll know soon enough

A/B’ing will melt your brain

So the logic is here... no sorry I can’t figure it out. Why wouldn’t I try both side by side to see if there’s a big difference and whether I have a preference? I’m not expecting them to be identical.

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