"Gibson running out of time - rapidly"

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• Three-ColourSunburst Frets: 1139

  February 2018 edited February 2018

  ICBM said:

  
  
  Gibson neck joints...
  
  http://www.pisotones.com/Elias/LP-Custom/Tenons.jpg
  
  The top one is a Standard, the bottom one is a Historic. (The middle one is an illustration to show the length of a transitional tenon.) These are Gibson's own photos from a few years back! Even the Historic doesn't really fit properly. The curved surfaces and gaps are to allow for "adjustment" and still have the fingerboard and the outer heel joint appear tight to the body.
  
  Why they want to do this, in the days when CNC can produce perfectly-fitting joints with no "adjustment" needed, I have no idea.
  

  That 'Standard' neck joint is truly shocking. No wonder one sees reports of Gibson Les Pauls where the neck angle is totally wrong. Even Harley Bentons use the long tenon design. Below is the neck joint on a Harley Benton CST model. It looks a lot better than even the one on that historic.
  
  http://s21.postimg.org/noe2yjgxz/IMG_20160218_204731.jpg
  
  
  

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• ICBM Frets: 72300

  February 2018

  Three-ColourSunburst said:
  
  That 'Standard' neck joint is truly shocking. No wonder one sees reports of Gibson Les Pauls where the neck angle is totally wrong. Even Harley Bentons use the long tenon design. Below is the neck joint on a Harley Benton CST model. It looks a lot better than even the one on that historic.

  Exactly. Quality CNC programming instead of hand bodging.
  
  It baffles me why Gibson still insist on doing it that way, and why buyers are still so obsessed about "hand made" or believe it to be better.

  "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

  "Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein

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• Danielsguitars Frets: 3290

  February 2018 edited February 2018 tFB Trader

  Gibson should've updated the les paul for a modern version imo, improving the neck/ heel joint would've been a good start and kept everything standard at a reasonable cost for players
  Keep the whole production smaller and concentrate on the core business
  
  They also should've done a small luthier team for accurate replicas not the true historic stuff, if they haven't used the vintage fret scale the rest is pointless 
  There are people making good money building replicas and that's because Gibson couldn't be arsed to get it right
  Fading a burst takes time same as the ageing with natural checking 
  Historic makeovers has made a good business out of this too 
  With Gibson it turned into greed and tried to be something it's not, a lifestyle brand, these aren't bloody handbags or perfumes etc

  www.danielsguitars.co.uk
  (formerly customkits)

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