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  • vizviz Frets: 10643
    Roland said: Scales are primarily a tool for categorising knowledge, not a rule for what can or cannot be played.
    Supportact said: [my style is] probably more an accumulation of limitations and bad habits than a 'style'.
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  • JAYJOJAYJO Frets: 1526
    edited July 2018
    I found the easiest way to link these shapes was to see the tonic notes as octaves and use the caged system to order them.shape one would be E  2 would be D and so on.(referring to Vizs diagrams.Look for the chord shapes also. caged imo helps to organise rather than looking for the box shape overlapping. Just decide if you are Major or minor the root shapes are the same.
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  • stratman3142stratman3142 Frets: 2176
    JAYJO said:
    I found the easiest way to link these shapes was to see the tonic notes as octaves and use the caged system to order them.shape one would be E  2 would be D and so on.(referring to Vizs diagrams.Look for the chord shapes also. caged imo helps to organise rather than looking for the box shape overlapping. Just decide if you are Major or minor the root shapes are the same.
    That's the way I view things as well. Knowing the intervals of the notes in the shapes (relative to the root note) helps me to have an integrated view of chords and scales.
    It's not a competition.
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  • ModellistaModellista Frets: 2039
    JAYJO said:
    I found the easiest way to link these shapes was to see the tonic notes as octaves and use the caged system to order them.shape one would be E  2 would be D and so on.(referring to Vizs diagrams.Look for the chord shapes also. caged imo helps to organise rather than looking for the box shape overlapping. Just decide if you are Major or minor the root shapes are the same.
    I'd endorse that too.  Seeing a pentatonic scale as based around the chord shapes of Em, Am, and Dm simplifies things a lot.

    There's no way I could have ever learned those diagrams by rote - even though they are correct, they are offputting even when you know off the top of your head what they are describing. (With the caveat that everyone has their own leaning style)

    If I was learning this I'd consider the fact that if I knew the three basic chords above, worked out the root notes, then considered the 7ths and then the 4ths, I already knew the notes of the minor pentatonic scale.  And then that's the starting point to somehow making some music with them!
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  • machakmachak Frets: 8
    Instead of memorizing those, you also might start using interval approach, see explanation and links to interactive diagrams in my reddit post [1]. This guys explains it quite well, just take a few minutes to watch it:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3DCpJlGQFA&feature=youtu.be&t=126


    [1] Reddit post  https://www.reddit.com/r/Guitar_Theory/comments/8c1s9i/pentatonic_shape/

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  • machakmachak Frets: 8
    Instead of memorizing those, you also might start using interval approach, see explanation and links to interactive diagrams in my reddit post [1]. This guys explains it quite well, just take a few minutes to watch it:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3DCpJlGQFA&feature=youtu.be&t=126


    [1] Reddit post  https://www.reddit.com/r/Guitar_Theory/comments/8c1s9i/pentatonic_shape/

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  • machakmachak Frets: 8
    Hmm fairly new to this board, cannot see how to delete double post
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