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kt66kt66 Frets: 315
edited May 2019 in Guitar
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  • kt66kt66 Frets: 315
    edited May 2019
    PS probably best drumming too! 
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  • TheBigDipperTheBigDipper Frets: 4722
    If only TV had been a better singer...  I’m a fan.  
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  • kt66kt66 Frets: 315
    edited May 2019
    If only TV had been a better singer...  I’m a fan.  
    agreed not the best voice, but what musicians, more sublime proof here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhDI0HN9HH0
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  • wesker123wesker123 Frets: 496
    Yes superb, great choice. Always though the drummer was very good too.
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  • DannyPDannyP Frets: 1667
    Yes I love Television. So good.

    TV wrote Kingdom Come on Bowie's Scary Monsters album. I imagine that's a good pension.
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  • axisusaxisus Frets: 28280
    edited July 2018
    Dipped in a few times. Really doesn't do anything for me at all. I love a lot of the energy from that era of music, but this is not something I'd rate personally. Still, each to his own.
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  • NervousJohnNervousJohn Frets: 191
    Yep, they are great. The Blow Up is one of the best live albums there is for sheer crackling energy. Okay they get a bit lost every so often, when they all sync back up again it’s amazing. 
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  • proggyproggy Frets: 5827

    I listened because the OP said "best guitar playing ever"

    Wish I hadn't bothered.

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  • bacchanalianbacchanalian Frets: 880
    As a big Neil Young fan, I very much appreciate where you are coming from. 
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  • StuartMac290StuartMac290 Frets: 1428
    Brilliant band, Marquee Moon is rightly recognised as an all-time classic
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  • freakboy1610freakboy1610 Frets: 1207
    edited July 2018
    Great stuff. I love Television. Richard Lloyd has a new LP out in November and his book is a good read too.
    Link to my trading feedback
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  • rlwrlw Frets: 4670
    proggy said:

    I listened because the OP said "best guitar playing ever"

    Wish I hadn't bothered.

    I think he meant best guitar playing ever at that very moment in time in that very place.  Fucking awful isn't it?
    Save a cow.  Eat a vegetarian.
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  • proggyproggy Frets: 5827
    rlw said:
    proggy said:

    I listened because the OP said "best guitar playing ever"

    Wish I hadn't bothered.

    I think he meant best guitar playing ever at that very moment in time in that very place.  Fucking awful isn't it?

    Certainly is.
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  • KKJaleKKJale Frets: 982
    I love that time and place. I saw the Voidoids with Robert Quine in 1979 and it had a big effect on me... Velvets, Byrds and Coltrane, all mixed up. The Patti Smith Group's style left a guitar cable trailing in the rockist '70s, but those startlingly jagged and brilliantly interlocking guitars of Verlaine and Lloyd really did show a whole new way forwards. Fabulous. 
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  • thermionicthermionic Frets: 9498
    Wis'd for reminding me of the great late 70s/early 90s NME/Sounds derogatory term "rockist".
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  • KKJaleKKJale Frets: 982

    Ha! 

    I've been rethinking my "whole new way forwards" claim and remembered that I once came across a Grateful Dead concert bootleg from the mid-'70s that sounded eerily like Television in places… chiming, melodic, almost math-rock guitars, blueswank avoidance with lots of major scales in place of pentatonics… a strange confluence from two totally different sources.

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  • EricTheWearyEricTheWeary Frets: 16253
    KKJale said:

    Ha! 

    I've been rethinking my "whole new way forwards" claim and remembered that I once came across a Grateful Dead concert bootleg from the mid-'70s that sounded eerily like Television in places… chiming, melodic, almost math-rock guitars, blueswank avoidance with lots of major scales in place of pentatonics… a strange confluence from two totally different sources.

    I remember listening to a radio show about Hank Marvin and they played some early live stuff. The amps were much more overdriven than the records and classic blues licks in places. Hank saying at that point he'd never really heard any blues  just that if you have a loud guitar eventually you cross over into something else that's played on a loud guitar. 

    Television always seem to get labelled with punk so my expectations are always wrong. I struggle to imagine that they were liked by the punks at all.  I'll try to approach the clip in the OP with tabula rasa.
    Tipton is a small fishing village in the borough of Sandwell. 
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  • joetelejoetele Frets: 947
    edited July 2018
    kt66 said:
    Words cannot describe how much this always floors me, it's just incredible,
    any fans here?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9BkYIlgMSA
    KKJale said:

    Ha! 

    I've been rethinking my "whole new way forwards" claim and remembered that I once came across a Grateful Dead concert bootleg from the mid-'70s that sounded eerily like Television in places… chiming, melodic, almost math-rock guitars, blueswank avoidance with lots of major scales in place of pentatonics… a strange confluence from two totally different sources.

    Guys, I understand. It's like the kind of stuff you find as a 90s youngster when you finally 'get' the Pixies and Fugazi. Oh, and Sonic Youth, obviously. Unconventional, electric, fascinating music. 
    MUSIC: Pale Blurs
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  • HattigolHattigol Frets: 8175
    This is rubbish. No offence but it is.
    "Anybody can play. The note is only 20%. The attitude of the motherf*cker who plays it is  80%" - Miles Davis
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  • I'm so glad we all have different views on what is the best ..
    It makes things interesting.
    I'd hate it if everyone agreed that Guthrie Govan was "the best"... 
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