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  • SunDevilSunDevil Frets: 511
    330s are wonderful things - much better compliment to a Lester than a 335

    Being properly hollow, they feedback fro fun, but controlling that is all part of the experience and it can be controlled and used to mighty effect.

    Oh and they weigh nuffink’ too
    The answer was never 42 - it's 1/137 (..ish)
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  • NelsonPNelsonP Frets: 3347
    @Bridgehouse the Elitists aren't nitro. Good poly, but still poly. And they don't come in red :P 

    The top-end Lennon model was nitro iirc, but was also the same price as an ES-330.
    Bought one for my dad. If it isn’t nitro then the poly on it melts with acetone. Ask me how I know.
    How do you know?
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 24578
    NelsonP said:
    @Bridgehouse the Elitists aren't nitro. Good poly, but still poly. And they don't come in red :P 

    The top-end Lennon model was nitro iirc, but was also the same price as an ES-330.
    Bought one for my dad. If it isn’t nitro then the poly on it melts with acetone. Ask me how I know.
    How do you know?
    :)
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  • stickyfiddlestickyfiddle Frets: 26749
    @Bridgehouse the Elitists aren't nitro. Good poly, but still poly. And they don't come in red :P 

    The top-end Lennon model was nitro iirc, but was also the same price as an ES-330.
    Bought one for my dad. If it isn’t nitro then the poly on it melts with acetone. Ask me how I know.
    Hmm. Ok. Still not red :P 
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 24578
    @Bridgehouse the Elitists aren't nitro. Good poly, but still poly. And they don't come in red :P 

    The top-end Lennon model was nitro iirc, but was also the same price as an ES-330.
    Bought one for my dad. If it isn’t nitro then the poly on it melts with acetone. Ask me how I know.
    Hmm. Ok. Still not red :P 
    I do agree their blurb suggests poly tho!!
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  • AvalonAndyAvalonAndy Frets: 326
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  • stickyfiddlestickyfiddle Frets: 26749
    Thanks for all the input. It has been very helpful and has probably ruled out the 330 due to the feedback issue. It would be going through a DRRi and an AC15 which, from the suggestions above, would make it impossible to run at mid to high volumes.
    I wouldn’t discount it till you’ve tried one. Gary Clark Jr had no issues with his Casino and his rig is probably the loudest I’ve ever been stood in front of.

    Personally I’d be *extremely* happy with a 330 plus a couple of pedals and either of those amps.
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  • HattigolHattigol Frets: 8176
    Thanks for all the input. It has been very helpful and has probably ruled out the 330 due to the feedback issue. It would be going through a DRRi and an AC15 which, from the suggestions above, would make it impossible to run at mid to high volumes.
    I wouldn’t discount it till you’ve tried one. Gary Clark Jr had no issues with his Casino and his rig is probably the loudest I’ve ever been stood in front of.
    He does have the distinct advantage over most of us in being able to stand 10 yards away from his amps. 

    Or as he'd put it 'Feedback, schmeedback'.
    "Anybody can play. The note is only 20%. The attitude of the motherf*cker who plays it is  80%" - Miles Davis
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  • AvalonAndyAvalonAndy Frets: 326
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  • stickyfiddlestickyfiddle Frets: 26749
    Wisdom awarded :)

    What colour?
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  • DannyPDannyP Frets: 1667
      I was interested in a Bigsbyfied 61 VOS 330 model, but it's more expensive again and not entirely necessary as I have the whammy on the Marr Jag.
    Marr played a 330 quite a bit with the Smiths too - notably on a TOTP performance. Are you a bit of a fan?
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  • peteripeteri Frets: 1283
    I'll likely be selling my 1967 ES-330 soon, if anyone in this thread is interested - you might be surprised how cheap the old ones are!
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  • Hattigol said:
    Hattigol said:
    A 330 would be good GAS, as would an SG. A Bigsby would spoil either. Nowt wrong with 335s; IMO the extra tone switch on the 345 is redundant if you've got good tone-shaping features on your recording equipment.
    Disagree on that. I have one of the drab green 345 reissues (which is wonderful). I think one of the factors in that is the extra weight from both the Bigsby and the Varitone circuit. Gives it so much more balls than others that don't have it. 

    Was very tempted myself by a 330 - GuitarGuitar had a great deal on a Bigsby-fitted one - but the elephant in the room is the feedback. Playing through my Vox AC15, the 345 needs taming sometimes - the 330 would be crackers...
    You shouldn't get feedback from the semi unless you're using silly amounts of gain (didn't El Clappo use a 335 in front of stacks in Cream?), but yes you're likely to get it with even moderate amounts of gain with the 330, which is entirely hollow (guess why the 335 centre-block was invented?).

    I have a real 335 as well as two other semis which are direct descendents of that design. Can't think of any tonal deficit in any of them, let alone any which could be fixed by the addition of a Bigsby. The extra weight of the varitone circuit is negligible.
    Thanks for clarifying that my opinion was wrong. Apologies for making a suggestion. 
    So we disagreed. No apologies necessary or expected. Your opinion or suggestion is worth just as much as mine. Probably more, as someone else with more experience than me of varitone has said there are chokes involved and their weight is not "negligible". So I'm probably wrong. No need to make sarky apologies.
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  • NelsonPNelsonP Frets: 3347
    Nice. Pics please.
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  • KitsuneKitsune Frets: 292
    I A/Bed a 2018 330 and 335 about 2 months ago, playing through a tweed pro junior. I had the volume on about 7.5 and the amp turned away from me almost at 90 degrees.

    Overall, I preferred the 330's tone and it got the sound I was looking for dead on. The feedback was an issue though, as the 330 would howl if given a chance. The 335 had plenty of feedback too, but it was more controllable and not as much of an issue - feedback on demand, rather than all of the time.

    Both played more or less the same, but the tailpiece on the 330 gave it much more of an acoustic quality combined with the full hollow body.

    Both cherry. The 335 was by far the more gorgeous finish and wood of the two - by quite some margin. 

    Originally, I was sold on the 330 as tone > looks and agreed on buying it. I had a deal in place for both of them to be the same price, so that wasn't a factor.

    After a pint around the corner and mulling it over (I like to consider my stuff at a distance), I went back and switched to the 335, which I'm having HB sized P90s put into and have a bigsby on to give it some of that tailpiece jangle.

    It all came down to feedback when I want it, rather than fighting it. I do still think about that 330 though :)
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  • peteripeteri Frets: 1283

    I don't find the feedback that bad, sure you can get it to do what you describe - but it's controllable pretty easily with string muting etc when you get used to it.

    Sound of the 330 is very different though, the bridge can AC/DC rock, but for me it's forte is cleaner than that - when it's wonderful and light, airy etc.

    Acoustically the 330 is much louder and that comes through.

    For me the 335 sits between a 330 and Les Paul and can do close to either

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  • KitsuneKitsune Frets: 292
    peteri said:

    I don't find the feedback that bad, sure you can get it to do what you describe - but it's controllable pretty easily with string muting etc when you get used to it.

    Sound of the 330 is very different though, the bridge can AC/DC rock, but for me it's forte is cleaner than that - when it's wonderful and light, airy etc.

    Acoustically the 330 is much louder and that comes through.

    For me the 335 sits between a 330 and Les Paul and can do close to either

    I was running clean, but I crank things up. On my own amps and rig, I use a lot of fuzz too, so there was no way that the 330 would have been able to handle that.

    I usually use an LP, so the P90s were something a bit different. Was also looking at a ES 137, so kinda found the 335 to be in the middle ground.
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