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What? Earplugs?!

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  • capo4thcapo4th Frets: 4437
    Turn yourselves down and buy some ACS pro 17s
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  • simonksimonk Frets: 1467
    the_jaffa said:
    simonk said:
    I’d look at the Read Audio molds. They’re much better than the ACS Pro 17’s (particularly if you’re a singer)... I have both and haven’t used the ACS since getting the Reads.

    http://www.read-audio.com/
    In what way are they better? I'm intrigued
    They’re more comfortable to wear over longer periods of time and offer much better sound quality - the ACS dumped too much treble for my liking. I always felt like the ACS ‘bunged’ me up and I really struggled to sing whilst wearing them... I have no such problem with the Reads (I even convinced our frontman to get a pair and he loves them).
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  • the_jaffathe_jaffa Frets: 1778
    Interesting, cheers.
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  • p90foolp90fool Frets: 31368
    Get a drummer with a smaller ego? Once you've played with one you'll never go back, believe me. 
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  • I've been using ACS stuff for years. I found that the PRO17s attenuated a bit too much for my taste so I swapped 'em out for PRO15s.
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  • djspecialistdjspecialist Frets: 901
    edited December 2017
    Personally I agree that ear plugs are a must - primarily due to high frequencies from the drum kit.

    My band is not particularly heavy, but our drummer hits pretty hard and the rehearsal room isn't huge.  If I didn't protect my ears I'm 100% sure they would be damaged - if not after a single session then certainly cumulatively, week to week.

    I currently use a pair of Alpine Musicsafe (~£20).  They're OK, but roll off a bit of upper mids / treble.  I don't find that a major problem for playing guitar, but it can be quite noticeable when singing (feels like performing with a heavy cold).

    Our last gig was on a good sized space with not-excessive stage volume.  I stood a bit further from the drummer, played without plugs and felt happier for it.

    Would an upgrade to ACS / Read be worth the extra £100?  If so, how do I decide whether 15dB is good enough?
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  • MtBMtB Frets: 921
    @djspecialist ;

    This from the ACS website FAQ
    Q - WHICH PRO FILTER SHOULD I USE?A - The following is a good guideline but If you are unsure please feel free to contact us for advice on 01295 266 665.
    Pro10 – For acoustic musicians and small ensembles. Light protection in everyday environments.
    Pro15 – Orchestral musicians.
    Pro17 – DJs, vocalists, amplified instrument players, sound engineers, gig goers, clubbers.
    Pro20 – Extra High frequency protection, ideal for drummers.
    Pro26 – For venue staff and people exposed to high levels of noise for long periods of time. Good for industrial use.
    Pro27 – Best suited for motorcyclists and motorsport. Thinner sound tube on mould to help reduce wind noise under a helmet.
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  • dariusdarius Frets: 619
    I got ACS Pro15s after a chat with them at this years guitar show. Got them via the Musicians hearing scheme so much cheaper. Upgraded from good standard music plugs. Drummer is never allowed to hit anything until the whole band is plugged up. Snare and Crash basically destroy anything in a 1 mile radius.
    15s really attentuate well, and i sing too and they are good for me.
    17s would be too quiet for me.
    ACS let you swap them for free within a few weeks if you feel youve chosen the wrong ones.
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  • I started with 17s...then 20s...now gigging with 26s with no problems.
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  • ACS pro 15’s can’t gig without them now!
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  • Proper personally moulded earlpugs. DO IT. Don't risk your ears. The right kind will attenuate all frequencies equally (cheap foam ones don't), so you will be able to hear everything, but quieter and in proportion.
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  • JalapenoJalapeno Frets: 6378
    Proper personally moulded earlpugs. DO IT. Don't risk your ears. The right kind will attenuate all frequencies equally (cheap foam ones don't), so you will be able to hear everything, but quieter and in proportion.
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  • deanodeano Frets: 622
    the_jaffa said:
    I've just ordered some ACS Pro 17. These are the custom fit ones molded to your ear'ole. They're not cheap but they're a lot cheaper than hearings aids and losing your hearing.

    I had the moulds taken at my local Boots after a hearing test.

    https://www.acscustom.com/uk/products/hearing-protection/pro-series
    Actually can I correct this please.

    I gigged a NMV AC30 on "loud" for many years in the 80's and 90's. Couldn't play at that volume now of course but back there and back then you could. It cost me nothing to lose my hearing. In fact I made money out of losing my hearing.

    But the problem is that nowadays I can't listen to a TV on reasonable volume without hearing aids.

    However the NHS supplies my hearing aids, and the batteries are free as well. So both losing your hearing and getting hearing aids are actually free.

    But don't do it. Spend the money and buy hearing protection.
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  • crunchmancrunchman Frets: 11413

    I recently got some ACS Pro 15s.  Used them in anger for the first time at a gig I went to last night.  Impressed with them.  The sound was pretty good.  The support band's guitars didn't have much top end or definition, but I think that was down to an incompetent sound man.  The headline band sounded really good.  Really nice not to have ringing ears at the end of it.

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