Digital mixers and adjusting IEM mix from phone app ?

Roland · September 2018

vonLayzonfon said:

I am on the very cusp of getting an XR18

You should budget for a wireless router too. The inbuilt WiFi isn’t reliable, and doesn’t have the security features which you need in a public environment.

vonLayzonfon · September 2018

Roland said:

vonLayzonfon said:

I am on the very cusp of getting an XR18

You should budget for a wireless router too. The inbuilt WiFi isn’t reliable, and doesn’t have the security features which you need in a public environment.

Thanks for the tip.

FarleyUK · October 2018

We fairly recently got a Mackie DL806 and an Apple Airport router. Works amazingly well - I've set it so that the singer cannot mess anything up as he only has access to his own IEM mix, and myself and the drummer can alter the FoH sound as well as our own IEM mixes. Really amazing bit of kit!

EDIT - just realised I said this earlier. It's been a long day.

kennedydream1980 · October 2018

My band just bought a Behringer XR18 and it's a big step up in audio quality over our previous Presonus Studiolive mixer. The pre-amps are much nicer and the FX is excellent.

I picked up a Netgear wireless 5ghz router off ebay for around £15 and a nice little Acer laptop for around £50.

We have the mixer and the laptop hardwired to the router via cat5 cable. That way we have the security of the hardwired connection but can also control the mixer via wifi. Getting it all setup was a breeze. Everyone in the band can now mix their own iem's. Connection was rock solid at the last gig and it sounded great out front. Very happy with the purchase.

firepaulmusic · October 2018

Roland said:

We use the X18 Air and have 5 mono IEM mixes, one for each of us. This means we also have a rack case of IEM transmitters. Normally I’m against proliferating technology, but it’s been well worth it because we can all hear clearly, and there’s no monitors to feedback through the vocal mics.

Controlling the IEM mixes has been interesting. Three of us use iPads, and the other two have iPhones. In theory we could each do our own mix, and have the desk saves the mix settings for each venue. However only the bass player and I bother to run the Behringer app. The other three call out during soundcheck if they want any changes, which then get saved. You could say that it’s technophobia. I think it’s more that, once set up for personal preferences, there aren’t a lot of changes needed.

This weekend I finally got around to setting the EQ for my IEM channel.

Is it possible to have stereo mixes for IEMs?

kennedydream1980 · October 2018

firepaulmusic said:

Roland said:

We use the X18 Air and have 5 mono IEM mixes, one for each of us. This means we also have a rack case of IEM transmitters. Normally I’m against proliferating technology, but it’s been well worth it because we can all hear clearly, and there’s no monitors to feedback through the vocal mics.

Controlling the IEM mixes has been interesting. Three of us use iPads, and the other two have iPhones. In theory we could each do our own mix, and have the desk saves the mix settings for each venue. However only the bass player and I bother to run the Behringer app. The other three call out during soundcheck if they want any changes, which then get saved. You could say that it’s technophobia. I think it’s more that, once set up for personal preferences, there aren’t a lot of changes needed.

This weekend I finally got around to setting the EQ for my IEM channel.

Is it possible to have stereo mixes for IEMs?

Yes I believe you can

Danny1969 · October 2018

You can have a Stereo IEM mix by grouping 2 aux sends, so 3 stereo IEM mixs out of 6 sends

A better way is to use a P16M, which is Behringers version of the ME-1 ........much easier to control during a gig and because it's getting a TDM stream via CAT5 your not using aux sends so can have as many stereo IEM mixes as you have P16'S ... and at £180 ish each they aren't expensive

Emp_Fab · November 2018

Does anyone have experience of band members controlling their IEM mixes from smartphones with the Behringer? I've been looking at the specs and it says the WiFi can have four concurrent clients. Is that right?
There's five of us!

kennedydream1980 · November 2018

Emp_Fab said:

Does anyone have experience of band members controlling their IEM mixes from smartphones with the Behringer? I've been looking at the specs and it says the WiFi can have four concurrent clients. Is that right?
There's five of us!

All 6 aux outs can be controlled by the App by 6 or more different devices

Emp_Fab · November 2018

Lovely stuff. Thanks very much.

Emp_Fab · November 2018

I’m just about to click “Buy now” on the XR18 and I’ve stopped because I can’t seem to find the iPhone version of the ‘X Air Q’ monitor mix app. I’ve been frantically Googling but all I’m seeing are posts from people moaning that it doesn’t exist!

Surely that’s not right ?

Half the band have iPhones.

kennedydream1980 · November 2018

We use this app.

XAir Monitor Mixer by Eric Tetz
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/xair-monitor-mixer/id1271279395?mt=8

Emp_Fab · November 2018

Thanks mate.

Roland · November 2018

Have you got an old WiFi router kicking about? The inbuilt WiFi isn't particularly reliable, and it’s security is poor. It’s worth using a separate router.

kennedydream1980 · November 2018

Roland said:

Have you got an old WiFi router kicking about? The inbuilt WiFi isn't particularly reliable, and it’s security is poor. It’s worth using a separate router.

Yes this is essential if you want a rock solid connection via WiFi. I picked up a Netgear 5G router for about £15 off eBay. It works great. The 5G band is much less populated therefore it’s easy to get a stable connection. With the on board 2.4gb WiFi on the XR18 as soon as you get into any populated venue with the majority of people using smartphones, you are going to struggle.

We also have a Laptop hardwired to the Netgear router via Ethernet cable for backup in case we lose the WiFi connection. Although so far as I said it’s been rock solid with the 5G router.

Emp_Fab · November 2018

Roland said:

Have you got an old WiFi router kicking about? The inbuilt WiFi isn't particularly reliable, and it’s security is poor. It’s worth using a separate router.

Yep... as a WiFi engineer, I have several to choose from!

Emp_Fab · November 2018

Oooh!! It’s coming today! It’s coming today!!! I can’t wait!!
I’m as excited as Gary Glitter landing a gig as Noo-Noo at a live Teletubbies show!

josephdouce · December 2018

XR18 you can get the X-AIR Q app select which bus you want and then control only that bus from the app, so you can essential name them all with the band members name and have up to 6 individual monitor mixes controled by the members then the that just leaves the Main LR to you.

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