Jazzmaster - top E string unwinding

thatguyoverthere · August 2018

Gagaryn said:

Just discovered these - longer wind to help alleviate the problem - https://www.homeoftone.co.uk/collections/best-sellers/products/the-gts-co-gt-rounds-11-50

These are the strings I use on my AV65 Jazzmaster and I can say they come highly recommended... I had exactly the same problem, tried using Fender Bullets for a while and that was okay, but this solved it entirely. Last set I had on lasted a good six months, I had to change them because they rusted. They stay sounding great for a really long time.

JD50 · August 2018

I had same issue on my 64 Jag. I flipped the screw and problem ceased..... knocking on 5 years now.

Philtre · February 2019

Thread revival.

This happened to me again tonight on my JM. Twice. First the high E string unravelled at the ball end. I replaced that then bugger me the B string snapped at the ball end.

High E is not rubbing on the domed screw head. And the B string is certainly not.

What is this witchcraft?

D'Addario 10s for what it's worth.

punchesjudy · February 2019

Daddario strings do have a habit of the high e unwinding on JMs and jags.
You can solder the string wind to stop it happening apparently. I use daddarios but dont bother since I've only had the unwind happen about three times in four years of playing JMs.

The snapped b string was most likely just bad luck tbh.

Philtre · February 2019

punchesjudy said:

Daddario strings do have a habit of the high e unwinding on JMs and jags.

But why? If it's not rubbing on the screw head?

You can solder the string wind to stop it happening apparently.

Yes, done that now.

punchesjudy · February 2019

Philtre said:

punchesjudy said:

Daddario strings do have a habit of the high e unwinding on JMs and jags.

But why? If it's not rubbing on the screw head?

I think they just don't have enough winds on the high e so they slip. I guess that's it anyways. Or they just aren't wound tight enough.
Mine aren't rubbing on the screw head either.

meltedbuzzbox · February 2019

Run a file through the tail piece
They develop Spurs from time to time and that's what's snapping the string(s)

Philtre · February 2019

meltedbuzzbox said:

Run a file through the tail piece
They develop Spurs from time to time and that's what's snapping the string(s)

You mean the holes where the strings go through?

meltedbuzzbox · February 2019

Philtre said:

meltedbuzzbox said:

Run a file through the tail piece
They develop Spurs from time to time and that's what's snapping the string(s)

You mean the holes where the strings go through?

Yes

liftman · February 2019

I had exact same problem with top E and B on AVRI '65. Got these 'Daddario soldered twists' and has never happened again!

https://www.stringsdirect.co.uk/strings-c1/single-strings-c810/electric-guitar-c534/daddario-kpl011-soldered-twist-plain-steel-single-guitar-string-011-gauge-p6613?gclid=CjwKCAiA45njBRBwEiwASnZT55P0GCsclV2wKF7gSFwPSMa1hKtpBnhsDNUuQQaIhLwuWy3EE_xGcBoCxVcQAvD_BwE#fo_c=1949&fo_k=a2a23e0328180e688bcd8e0fb7c1031b&fo_s=gplauk?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=

Philtre · February 2019

I've soldered the end twists on the Es and Bs on my Jazzmaster and Jag AVRI '65s now. See how that goes.

Roland · February 2019

punchesjudy said:

Daddario strings do have a habit of the high e unwinding on JMs and jags.
You can solder the string wind to stop it happening apparently. I use daddarios but dont bother since I've only had the unwind happen about three times in four years of playing JMs.

The snapped b string was most likely just bad luck tbh.

meltedbuzzbox said:

Run a file through the tail piece
They develop Spurs from time to time and that's what's snapping the string(s)

I had a similar problem in a Parker Fly. Filing the sharp edge off the bit that holds the string ball solved the problem. It appeared to be a combination of the bridge profile and a particular month’s production batches.

Grunfeld · February 2019

I've been gigging a JM for a couple of years now and never had a problem till reading this thread.

Saturday night, top E kept going flat every song. Unwinding.

What weird voodoo is this?

Philtre · February 2019

Grunfeld said:

I've been gigging a JM for a couple of years now and never had a problem till reading this thread.
Saturday night, top E kept going flat every song. Unwinding.
What weird voodoo is this?

The curse of the JM E string thread strikes again...

Grunfeld · February 2019

And it's not even as if it's under any real tension....

I play 008s dropped to Eb!

Philtre · February 2019

Grunfeld said:

And it's not even as if it's under any real tension....
I play 008s dropped to Eb!

On a JM? Wowzer!

Philtre · February 2020

Time to revive this thread!

I got fed up with the E strings rubbing on the tremolo plate screws on my Jaguar AVRi '65 so I took it apart and reversed the two outer screws. As far as I can tell the top plate screw holes are threaded so should be good to go.

If I break a string now it'll have to be a burr on the inside of the string holes or I blame D'addario strings. I'll not solder the string windings yet so I can see if reversing the screws solves the problem.

LPManic · February 2020

The trick on JMs is to insert the string through the peg hole as normal but then to pass it over the peg in between the ridge and only then wrap it around the peg normally. That reduces if not eliminates slippage.

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