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As I said a CNC machine operates exactly the same no matter what country you put it in, it's just following a program. I can't see what difference it makes ?
If you put a Fender CNC machine in Korea it would make exactly the same body as it would if it was in the USA. It's following a program it makes no difference where it is .... the only difference is where the wood comes from and how it's treated
ill go and play my crazy guitars. Lol
I don't personally understand the hate caused by the origigin question or the need to for so much secrecy about it but I don't think you're going to change many minds on the subject.
Have a ball trying the Paloma today. I'm far more expecting to hear you've bought it than that I'll be seeing you tomorrow but it's good either way.
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See, I don't think you can - most countries have at least a few rules on what constitutes "made in" - does it say on a Doozy "made in Germany" does anyone know?
I agree that it doesn't matter where something is made if the end product is good, but their spiel is bullshit and if you can't see it then good luck crossing the road. Every Reverend "see's" the US headquarters for final set up but they don't claim "made in US" - I suspect that @Danny1969 is right that they go a bit further and fit hardware, spend more time on final assembly / set up, but I'd be absolutely amazed if they have woodworking and finishing in Germany.
How can I be so sure - because such a self-conscious company would shout it from the roof-tops rather than in non-specific e-mails to individuals.
Compare their spiel to that of the Shecter Custom Shop:
"To be 100% transparent, since we don't have a forest out back, we do purchase the highest quality tone woods from around the world. Canadian hard rock maple comes from our northern neighbor, Honduran Mahogany comes from Honduras, Australian Lacewood from Down Under and Indian Rosewood comes from India, not Indiana J. Our guitars start with solid hand selected hardwood billets sourced world wide for their specific tone and cosmetic properties. Our Maple neck blanks are harvested from the eastern United States as well as the cold regions of Canada for their stability and figure. All of our wood exotic and domestic is painstakingly researched for proper documentation and origin. We only deal with reputable and quality vendors with the highest standards and a long-standing history. This is lumber in its raw form just passed the harvest point and tempered. From here it is further seasoned, milled and turned into a beautiful "toneful" instrument one guitar at a time in our Southern California Facility by a hand picked team of craftsmen.
We also either manufacture or source from around the globe the highest quality components for our Custom Shop instruments. Here is a partial list:
Due to our limited production (35-45 guitars per month) we purchase incidental parts (knobs / jack plates / screws /etc) from domestic suppliers like Stewart MacDonald, AllParts, and WD Music. These parts originate in Taiwan, Korea, Mexico and PRC.
Our instruments are also finished (painted) in our in-house facility utilizing materials and procedures that meet or exceed California's strict guidelines".
You acknowledge that they are 'secretative' about their origins - and that you don't see a need for it. Let me help you understand it. 'Most' Korean made guitars cost about half what a Duesenberg costs - if they said 'we have them made in Korea, then QC, screw a few parts on and set them up in Germany' - that would 'look' like a cheaper guitar in the marketplace. This is badge engineering - irrespective of the merit of the actual quality of the end product.
Just to clarify - none of the above constitutes 'hate' - it is an accurate reflection of the company's modus operandi. Whether you (as in 'one') thinks it's 'right' is a matter of personal judgement.
German manufacturing and engineering has always had a great reputation, so as you say, if they were made there, they would make a song and dance about it and plaster it all over their website. I did hear somewhere that Duesenberg are extremely conscious (and paranoid) about this subject and would like to bring the operation to Germany fully at some point. The idea was that they would start making a small number of guitars then ramp up the operation over time. I have no clue whether this has begun or even if it's something they are still thinking of doing.
What I find interesting from the e-mail that the OP got from Duesenberg is this quote (if indeed it is a direct quote):
'Rest assured every Duesenberg guitar is made/built by master craftsmen/Luthiers in Hannover, Germany.'
They have put made/built together. I dunno about others but to me made and built are separate. Made means actually crafted and built means someone put the parts together. Again it seems another of Duesenberg's little ways of muddying the waters around the actual details of how/where these guitars are crafted. A little honesty goes a long way and this whole situation is one of their own making.
At the end of the day it's only a problem if you feel the wood work done in Korea rather than Germany will affect the resale price .... personally I wouldn't care myself but others might.
That doesn't sit too well with me no matter how cool & retro their guitars look.
I'm coming up empty
Horses for courses innit