Gary Moore on The Strat Pack...

Aidanspaghetti

Gentlemen, Im sure you've all witnessed this glorious display, but what amp(s) was Gary using for it? Was it a prototype? Which Cornford would get closest? (Ballpark anyway!) Many thanks for any help!

RocknRollDave

Can't help with the amp model / make but one thing I can tell you is Moore ran his amps very loud - my ears were ringing days after witnessing what was basically a Blues gig...that's never right! 

Seriously loud, driving the amp hard.

[Deleted User]

Some kind of modern Marshall (possibly a DSL). I would have thought any 'British voiced' amp would get you close.

Aidanspaghetti

Yeah Gary was a demon for the aul volume!

Great loss ;(   

I was lucky enough to be present at his Phil Lynnot one night in Dublin gig... 

Truly a great night!

Maybe got to go down the Modded jmp road - cheapeer probably than most options...

Anyone checked out the Friedman SS100?

I'd be short a kidney if i had the chance . . . . . 

AlexHunter

It's a stock Marshall DSL 100 on the crunch channel with the master volume running on 8, then a stock TS9 tubescreamer in front.

The rest is down to the hands (and the sixties strat).

For a Cornford to get there without pedals I'd be thinking about the RK100, but a DSL can be bought for £300 secondhand so why Cornford?

JayT

Hi Guys,

Defo a Jcm 2000 dsl 100 and probably his 4x12 1960 cabs.

impmann

Sadly missed.

Although I for one would just like to turn the gain down just a smidge, as when he has the volume slightly down on the guitar it just sings so much better and sounds clearer. I always thought Gary sounded so much better when he played with a cleaner tone - he tended to avoid the diddly-diddly cliches when the gain was down, IMHO.

Bucket

Can't help with the amp (I would be inclined to agree that it's a DSL) but I wish to say that the tone is stunning.

And that's before we get onto the Guitar Face...

RocknRollDave

^ This.

There's some lovely stuff in this video, especially at 3:27ish...:



Why didn't he play like that more often?!

[Deleted User]

Why didn't he play like that more often?!

I suspect a lot of 'name' players have broader abilities than they generally display. Gary Moore played in a jazz fusion band earlier in his career. He clearly had greater fretboard knowledge than the pentatonic based stuff he did on the Tele at the start of the video . The high-octane blues/rock noodling (as Joe Bonamassa has found) sells records....

RocknRollDave

True, although I'm not sure Moore's later albums sold fantastically well. I suspect it's more instantly gratifying to play loud, fast easy runs that wow a crowd rather than complex jazz parts...would that I had that kind of choice!

Aidanspaghetti

Cheers for the feedback guys - Yeah, real stage volume makes such a difference to an amp's character.

Id love to see the other tracks that didnt make the cut for the Strat Pack video - also the recent Marshall gig with Satriani etc... Anyone know if thats to be released?

[Deleted User]

I'm not sure Moore's later albums sold fantastically well.

'Still Got The Blues' clearly did well. After that I suspect you're right. A bit like Roy Buchannan, Beck et al, I think it is difficult for someone who is primarily a gifted guitarist to find a 'vehicle' which properly represents their talents and yet is of broad enough appeal to sell records. Personally I have never considered Moore to be a blues player; his phrasing and attack were always firmly on the 'rock' side of the fence.

FelineGuitars

I saw Gary guest with Paul Rodgers a few years ago

Rodgers band all had huge Cornford amps and Gary had a lone Marshall and cab  and he blew away the other guys sonically

Now I know that it's 85% down to Gary but it did make me think that the Marshall just sounded better for my tastes

axisus

Love his playing. Saw him live with Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker - that was memorable!

Bucket

richardhomer said:

Personally I have never considered Moore to be a blues player; his phrasing and attack were always firmly on the 'rock' side of the fence.

This.

That's why I love his rock stuff and don't particularly like most of his blues stuff.

EricTheWeary

FelineGuitars said:

I saw Gary guest with Paul Rodgers a few years ago

Rodgers band all had huge Cornford amps and Gary had a lone Marshall and cab  and he blew away the other guys sonically

Now I know that it's 85% down to Gary but it did make me think that the Marshall just sounded better for my tastes

I saw Bernie Marsden a few years ago and he played a Blackstar stack for a few numbers and a Marshall half stack for the rest. Absolute light and day, I was amazed - expecting basically little or no difference in a band context, suddenly his sound was much more articulate. Might be about familiarity with the gear as well I suppose and at a pub gig level or for versatility I wouldn't consider myself fond of Marshalls but there is something about the sound of one opened up and played by someone who knows their stuff that says they got it right. Anyway, Gary Moore - as I understand it he was something of a child prodigy at traditional Irish music and so had a much wider repertoire than he became known for. I think @rocknrolldave and I agreed, on a previous discussion, that his recordings in latter years, when he had stopped selling much, in many ways represented his more authentic bluesy work. Also, if you watch those clips he did for Guitarist on a small Marshall or the JVM promo clips there is the sense that the specific amp would have always been icing on the cake and he sounded like himself regardless of the gear. I think it's an old Rock Goes to College programme where he does the entire rock gig ( in an 80's widdle stylee) with a Les Paul Junior.

not_the_dj

axisus said:

Love his playing. Saw him live with Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker - that was memorable!

BBM I guess? I must dig out that CD, haven't listened to it in ages

AlexHunter

EricTheWeary said:

 Anyway, Gary Moore - as I understand it he was something of a child prodigy at traditional Irish music and so had a much wider repertoire than he became known for.

He was able to play Red House practically note for note with the Are You Experienced version when it was first released - making him 15 at the time. Playing the same song 37 years later I'd expect him to be good at it.

RocknRollDave

He did a whole show of Hendrix tunes ("Blues For Jimi", released as DVD and CD posthumously), which were pretty close..although with Moore's typical overplaying in evidence in several places

viz

Back on the strats.