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I dont think about scales, unless I’m in pentatonic mode, just what notes are in the chord im playing over.
To give the most impression of speed I tend to use a little trick that's 3 very fast picked notes on one string and then 3 legato notes on the next one. Even after years of trying I still don't have a very good consistent picking speed
I mainly use alternate picking mixed in with hammer-ons and pull-offs, when I want rhythmically controlled lines.
I occasionally throw in a bit of hybrid picking.
I also use extended legato, which comes fairly naturally because I'm left handed but play right handed. However, I tend to float over the beat and land phrases on targeted beats with that technique - the rhythmic equivalent of "falling down stairs and landing on my feet". I'm currently working through a Tom Quayle instructional video to try to improve my ability to apply more precise rhythmic control with legato.
I only use economy picking for that EJ/JB double downstroke thing. Apart from that I struggle with economy picking.
I occasionally use sweep picking (not very well) but I struggle with maintaining precise rhythmic control.
I have been using Hybrid quite a bit lately and find I get more control than economy timing wise and control over what want to instead of what the technique dictates to me in order to flow ..but still I feel as though alternate will give me more control than any other to technique apart from the speed aspect ...especially legato which I have done in my playing mostly over the years ...but again it sort of dictates what you play in the faster passages ...I feel as though with alternate wherever I am in the song alternate will work and I can get the accents where I want or need them ..
Yeah I have done work on the Tom Quayle vid....really good info from it but sometimes I feel as iff I tuned in 4ths some of the shapes would be more accessible for me but then it's a whole new learning curve and probably best doing it that way from earlier on ..
Post a picture of you doing some alternate picking so we can work out your picking orientation. Play at a fast, but comfortable for you tempo. Try to get the camera facing down the neck, like in the thumbnail of this video (which I would also recommend watching):
Probably not the best example but what I done a while back ..there is its of all kinds in but i would not be able to alternate pick this
The fast line at 50 seconds is definitely downward pick slanting and it looks pretty good. You should continue on like this if you wanted to get faster. Check out some of Chris Brooks material for an in depth look at downward pick slanting.
You are also doing what looks like some two way pick slanting movements, around 17 / 18 seconds.
Interestingly I looked at another video you had, called 16th October 2015, and you were playing some jazz on a Telecaster. You were playing using some crosspicking type movements and a little bit of two way pick slanting. I'm guessing the crosspicking comes from changing strings after only playing one note on a particular string.
You should figure out one movement and stick with it. Based on this clip I would reckon downward pick slanting would be the way to go.
Thanks ...I'm not really sure what downward pick slanting is but will certainly look into it ..I tend to use legato on some faster bits ...not that I want to play fast all the time ...just wondering what everybody most economical way is and downfalls and gains of them
I think you hold the plectrum so only a teeny weeny bit protudes, which allows you to play those machinegun sections and obviously enables you to play legato too - hence why you can switch between them so easily. I can’t quite see that it’s downslanted, but then I am looking on a mobile phone so Mr. Binge is probably right!
Supportact said: [my style is] probably more an accumulation of limitations and bad habits than a 'style'.
He is using some upward pickslanting at times, but on the fast part at 50 seconds it's downward pickslanting because of the angle of his wrist. Look at how the forearm is against the body around 44 seconds - this is a typical upward pickslanting position. He then changes and the forearm moves away from the body of the guitar before the fast picked run - this is because he is changing to downward pickslanting and the pick wants to change strings after an upstroke.
I remember listening to a few albums of Tony mcalpine years ago but not really tried to learn any of his stuff...this backing track was just a random one off YouTube.. so maybe with the backing track tried to get the same sort of feel
bastard...that is all ;-)
Seriously though - I've always strived for that Holdsworth/Dunnery Legato but can never quite get it - I've got the speed and Legato technique but I just can't get that fluidity and its probably the 4 note per string piece that I struggle to stretch to that holds me back..
Envious
LOL...if listened to lots of Holdsworth but very early on I realised he had long fingers and I had short..lol so the 4 note a string stuff I keep away from most of the time ..just use 3nps
Supportact said: [my style is] probably more an accumulation of limitations and bad habits than a 'style'.
As as a general rule of thumb, whenever someone is playing with their forearm against the body of the guitar they are likely using upward pickslanting and the pick strokes escape the strings on the downstroke.
Andy James and Guthrie are upward pickslanters and start a lot of phrases on a single string with upstrokes so they finish on downstrokes and they can make the string change smoothly.
Downward pickslanters have their forearm away from the body (supinated) and change strings best with upstrokes.