SOLD: Fender CS Relic 1960 Strat

Hattigol

Bump with a price drop. Yeah, it's got no COA but look at it. Beautiful CS 1960 Strat. Absolute cracker.

LPManic

Hattigol said:

Bump with a price drop. Yeah, it's got no COA but look at it. Beautiful CS 1960 Strat. Absolute cracker.

Is there any way of getting a replacement COA? Even if you have to pay for it?

Hattigol

LPManic said:

Hattigol said:

Bump with a price drop. Yeah, it's got no COA but look at it. Beautiful CS 1960 Strat. Absolute cracker.

Is there any way of getting a replacement COA? Even if you have to pay for it?

Possibly. But it certainly wouldn't be £1,800 if it had one!

Wazmeister

LPManic said:

Hattigol said:

Bump with a price drop. Yeah, it's got no COA but look at it. Beautiful CS 1960 Strat. Absolute cracker.

Is there any way of getting a replacement COA? Even if you have to pay for it?

Yes, take it into a dealer, they confrim its genuine - mew one issued - £70-£80

fretfinder

Wazmeister said:

LPManic said:

Hattigol said:

Bump with a price drop. Yeah, it's got no COA but look at it. Beautiful CS 1960 Strat. Absolute cracker.

Is there any way of getting a replacement COA? Even if you have to pay for it?

Yes, take it into a dealer, they confrim its genuine - mew one issued - £70-£80

When Fender issue a replacement COA it’s dated according to the day it’s issued rather than the date when the guitar was originally made, which is not ideal imho. 

Brize

COAs are so pointless yet such a pain in the arse when they go missing - the silliest development in the high-end guitar market for sure.

Hattigol

Brize said:

COAs are so pointless yet such a pain in the arse when they go missing - the silliest development in the high-end guitar market for sure.

Agreed. I have included plenty of internal pictures showing that the guitar is without doubt genuine. But to some, a 6 x 3 piece of paper is all that matters - each to their own, I suppose.

With a COA, I would be asking at least £2,200 for this. A German dealer had what I think was an identical one for sale at £2,785 on Reverb, and that has now sold.

bgmartinsbridge

Personal experience of replacement Coa -


So, someone sold me a Cs strat about three years ago - and forgot to mention it had no Coa.

It had email correspondence between a shop and Fender, with internal photos of the strat, which he'd supplied previously. 

The guy just said, Fender will supply a new Coa for 50 quid. 

I went to a retailer and after a couple of months received a replacement Coa. 

To my surprise, it was dated as the original production date and not the new issue date. 

Hattigol

Cheers @bgmartinsbridge - much appreciated. 

I think I'll start the process. I'll update the advert (and the price!) if I get the COA sorted. 

Hattigol

Now temporarily withdrawn. The lovely Doug at Coda is contacting Fender for me about the COA. 

LPManic

Sorry I asked the question! Would have bought it for £1800 or thereabouts! Hopefully you get the COA. Lovely guitar.

Hattigol

LPManic said:

Sorry I asked the question! Would have bought it for £1800! Hopefully you get the COA. Lovely guitar.

Sorry @LPManic ;

First refusal when it goes back up if you want it - hopefully complete with a small piece of card worth around £400!

Doug thinks that given the age, it is probably a Time Machine Series guitar, so vintage spec with Custom 60’s pickups. He says that the flatter radius on a catalogue guitar didn’t become standard until 2007/8.

Trying to get the Floor Traveller too but I don't think Fender have them that far back.

thebreeze

As you know, I was interested in this guitar too, but without even those educated guesses coming from Doug at Coda, it's hard (for me) to invest in a guitar that I'd be buying blind in nearly every respect.  It would be different of course if I could play it, but that's not really possible.  In terms of the COA, it's not that it's important in terms of establishing whether it's a genuine CS guitar - that's pretty obvious, but it's the hassle involved in selling it without one to the market in general should the moment arrive.  I think this is what you've probably been experiencing too?

Hattigol

thebreeze said:

As you know, I was interested in this guitar too, but without even those educated guesses coming from Doug at Coda, it's hard (for me) to invest in a guitar that I'd be buying blind in nearly every respect.  It would be different of course if I could play it, but that's not really possible.  In terms of the COA, it's not that it's important in terms of establishing whether it's a genuine CS guitar - that's pretty obvious, but it's the hassle involved in selling it without one to the market in general should the moment arrive.  I think this is what you've probably been experiencing too?

Thanks @thebreeze It would indeed have been a blind purchase but the pictures were pretty detailed. Plus, I'm not sure where you are exactly but I do travel around and I'd have been more than happy to have met you somewhere so you could try it out - no obligation at all. Offer will still be there - to you and anyone else - as and when it goes back up for sale.

As for hassle, I seem to attract tyre-kickers whatever type of guitar I am selling! Some people - not you, I might add - seem to just like engaging with people about the guitars they are selling with no interest in buying whatsoever. Nature of the beast, I suppose...

chris78

FWIW, I think the issue with your ad was the lack of spec, not the coa.

I took a look and had no doubt it was genuine and personally I didn’t care about the coa.

I could make a guess about the specs for a 2003 guitar - 7.25 radius, vintage frets, 60s pickups (would have been machine wound back then probably), probably a 60s oval neck, but that’s a lot of guessing on an almost 2k investment. 

It looks a lovely guitar, but I think you need Fender to get you the specs. If you email their customer services, they generally come back within 48 hours

Hattigol

Thanks @chris78 ;

You may be right but I can't give what I don't have. I had emailed Fender for info but they weren't able to give me anything with the guitar being 17 years old. So, I was kind of stuck.

The neck is a 60s oval but the rest of it, I'm not sure, to be honest. Maybe Doug will have more joy.

At the end of the day, it was a gorgeous CS relic at £1,800 but nobody went for it. 

guitars4you

fretfinder said:

Wazmeister said:

LPManic said:

Hattigol said:

Bump with a price drop. Yeah, it's got no COA but look at it. Beautiful CS 1960 Strat. Absolute cracker.

Is there any way of getting a replacement COA? Even if you have to pay for it?

Yes, take it into a dealer, they confrim its genuine - mew one issued - £70-£80

When Fender issue a replacement COA it’s dated according to the day it’s issued rather than the date when the guitar was originally made, which is not ideal imho. 

correct about the date on a new COA - date will be today's date - Fender want a host of pics before they will issue one - If they have any signed blank coa's in the UK then quick to get one - If it comes from California then can be ages, especially with very staff in at the factory these days with covid issues

bgmartinsbridge

I must have been lucky then Mark, I wonder who it was ;-) 

Hattigol

Which dealer sorted yours for you, Brad? Thought yours was backdated.

bgmartinsbridge

Mine was def backdated by Fender.

I'll pm you the name of the dealer.