Pitch bending question

slacker

I want to be able to pitch bend an octave down or up. The obvious answer is a whammy but I want something that does other things as well. I can remove a delay or synthesis/octave pedal but the whammy type pedal would have to cover what comes off the board. 

So recommendations?

english_bob

Stuck record man strikes again. Line 6 M5.

Needs an expression pedal to get the most out of the whammy sounds, but so does everything. Can do very decent delays and may be able to cover whatever your synth/octave pedal does too. Its ability to do all of those jobs is enhanced by an expression pedal, so definitely money well spent.

Has presets too, which makes using one to cover several jobs much easier. £80 brand new.

The only issue is that different effects might be better at different points in the signal chain, so you either have to compromise, find a way to move it around the chain, or buy more than one!

NorthernStomps

I wish line 6 would do a MKii version of the M5 that doesn’t break as soon as you step on it. I want particle verb on my board

english_bob

NorthernStomps said:

I wish line 6 would do a MKii version of the M5 that doesn’t break as soon as you step on it. I want particle verb on my board

I don't have any complaints about the durability of mine, but I'd love an HXFX equivalent of the M5.

There's really nothing else out there, even now, that does the things the M5 does for sensible money. Only thing that comes close is the H9 MAX.

ICBM

Boss ME-50.

english_bob

ICBM said:

Boss ME-50.

And here's me calling myself "stuck record man". I'm small time.

ICBM

english_bob said:

And here's me calling myself "stuck record man". I'm small time.

 

But it's a completely serious suggestion - it does have pedal-controlled octave up and down, as well as fixed pitch shift, and it does *a lot* of other things too...

Its only disadvantage is that it's huge by pedal standards, but it does so much you could easily replace most of your pedalboard with it. It also runs on a completely standard 9V supply, if that matters.

andy1839

I bought a Line 6 M5 for this exact reason.
As well as a cheap expression pedal off Amazon.

I've got one output into the FX loop of the FX switcher and the other output into the front end loop so it can be anything.
It's a great utility pedal.

I've had an M13 for years and it's my current method of switching my Kemper profiles and I've never had any issues over the last ten years with it, although I have heard switches can fail I've never experienced it.

english_bob

ICBM said:

english_bob said:

And here's me calling myself "stuck record man". I'm small time.

 

But it's a completely serious suggestion - it does have pedal-controlled octave up and down, as well as fixed pitch shift, and it does *a lot* of other things too...

Which is why you keep banging on about it.

I think there's a surprising lack of pedals like this that don't take up a *huge* amount of room but can be used to "fill in the gaps" in a pedalboard- all the stuff you don't want to pay for a standalone version of. 

english_bob

andy1839 said:

I've got one output into the FX loop of the FX switcher and the other output into the front end loop so it can be anything.
It's a great utility pedal.

So you set up the switcher so that only one of those loops is ever on at one time, right? Niiice.

I have two, hooked up to an ES-5. I can use MIDI to switch patches/parameters and change the loop order depending on what the M5s are doing.

andy1839

english_bob said:

andy1839 said:

I've got one output into the FX loop of the FX switcher and the other output into the front end loop so it can be anything.
It's a great utility pedal.

So you set up the switcher so that only one of those loops is ever on at one time, right? Niiice.

I have two, hooked up to an ES-5. I can use MIDI to switch patches/parameters and change the loop order depending on what the M5s are doing.

Yep, spot on.
I still have to select a different effect on the M5 but it's handy to have one pedal that can do either depending on what I want.

I haven't dipped me toes into full midi yet, and the big boy switchers are beyond my feeble brain to work out!

english_bob

andy1839 said:

english_bob said:

andy1839 said:

I've got one output into the FX loop of the FX switcher and the other output into the front end loop so it can be anything.
It's a great utility pedal.

So you set up the switcher so that only one of those loops is ever on at one time, right? Niiice.

I have two, hooked up to an ES-5. I can use MIDI to switch patches/parameters and change the loop order depending on what the M5s are doing.

Yep, spot on.
I still have to select a different effect on the M5 but it's handy to have one pedal that can do either depending on what I want.

I haven't dipped me toes into full midi yet, and the big boy switchers are beyond my feeble brain to work out!

That's a nice low-tech, low faff, lot cost solution to the problem of getting the most out of the M5.

It was one of the reasons I went for a "big boy switcher". It was a lot to take in, but fairly intuitive and not actually that difficult to figure out. I bloody love it and wouldn't go back. MIDI opens up all sorts of possibilities with the M5. 

It was this guy's videos that sold me on the ES-5 (I already had the two M5s....)

slacker

Thanks I'll look into line 6.

meltedbuzzbox

Can you squeeze in a sub n up mini?

How good does the pitch function need to be?

slacker

meltedbuzzbox said:

Can you squeeze in a sub n up mini?

How good does the pitch function need to be?

I need bendy down for lonely boy and up for ratm.

meltedbuzzbox

Just seen this

https://www.guitarworld.com/amp/news/boss-updates-its-classic-octave-circuit-with-the-new-oc-5-pedal

Johnnyseven

Does the new EHX Pitchfork+ do this?

meltedbuzzbox

Johnnyseven said:

Does the new EHX Pitchfork+ do this?

Yes

NelsonP

Old pitchfork does too

WeZ84

The Boss PS-5 can do it although it has been discontinued so you would have to check whether the PS-6 has the same functionality. Or go for a used PS-5.

The Behringher US600 is a clone of the PS-5 too - I had one of these before I bought a digitech Whammy and it did a decent job - it will do the bend for Lonely Boy and not take up too much board space or pocket money.

shady

PS-6 does bendy up and bendy down without the need for an external expression pedal as you can set the rise and fall time in 'S Bend' mode and use the footswitch. Does a chorus if you want, as well some weird shit you'll never use. I like it for ambient organ like swells and bendy stuff, packs a lot in for a compact pedal but not all the voices are polyphonic if that's an issue.