So ... Who liked Pink Floyd's Final Cut?

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axisusaxisus Frets: 28280
I worshipped the Wall when it came out. It's still one of my very favourite albums ever. I had such anticipation for the Final cut .... but I found it terminally boring. A massive disappointment for me. Barely played it on release.

I didn't listen to it for 35 years, then a few years ago I decided to get it on CD and see if I liked it now. Several years later and I still haven't played it all! It has been said that it was the first Roger Waters solo record (in effect) and I can agree in that I don't like any of his solo output either. 

I'm just bringing it up as a few people seemed to really like it on an old Floyd thread that has resurfaced, so I was wondering if it's just me who finds it dreary and lifeless.


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  • Danny1969Danny1969 Frets: 10357
    I love it, was playing it last night 
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  • LastMantraLastMantra Frets: 3822
    I like it but not as much as some of their other stuff. I think there was a bit of hype because it was a bit obscure (between me and my mates anyway). 
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  • sweepysweepy Frets: 4158
    Some of the best solos this side of Animals tbh 
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  • monquixotemonquixote Frets: 17485
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    I like Pink Floyd, but I really intensely dislike this album. 
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  • CirrusCirrus Frets: 8481
    I think the emotional highs are pretty damn good - The Hero's Return & Gunner's Dream, in particular - But only if you're interested in the juxtaposition of the broader themes of society's post-war political transformation from Attlee's post-war socialist democracy to Thatcherism, juxtaposed against individual bitter-sweet stories of post war life.

    ie... it's quite a self-limiting album in terms of its appeal.  =)

    And if you can't see the artistic resonance in those themes... yep, it's gonna be a pretty dreary listen.
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 71959
    Cirrus said:
    I think the emotional highs are pretty damn good - The Hero's Return & Gunner's Dream, in particular - But only if you're interested in the juxtaposition of the broader themes of society's post-war political transformation from Attlee's post-war socialist democracy to Thatcherism, juxtaposed against individual bitter-sweet stories of post war life.

    ie... it's quite a self-limiting album in terms of its appeal.  =)

    And if you can't see the artistic resonance in those themes... yep, it's gonna be a pretty dreary listen.
    I would agree with all this, but I still think it's a great album - possibly Waters' best writing, those two tracks in particular although I would also add Southampton Dock and the title track.

    I had it when it came out, but thought it dated very badly in only a few years - the political references quickly became irrelevant and I lost interest in it and didn't listen to it for twenty years. Then when I did again, I found that it had regained its resonance and power, especially in the aftermath of Iraq and the realisation that the message was as important now as it's ever been.

    Ironically, the track which seemed the best originally - Two Suns In The Sunset - has lost a lot of its power now that the risk of nuclear war has receded.

    For what it's worth I think the CD release with When The Tigers Broke Free has it in the wrong place, which was a mistake - it should be the first track, as a sort of preface. As it should really have been for The Wall, which is when it was written - and if you don't think that's one of Waters' greatest songs you probably aren't going to really get the rest of the album either.

    It's not an album for those who think Pink Floyd songs are just a background for Gilmour's guitar playing - great though he is at it. I'm not even totally sure he understood that, given that he picked The Fletcher Memorial Home for Echoes... it's a good song but it's far from the best on the album. I would agree that it's essentially a Waters solo album - but if it is, it's probably his best, although Amused To Death is a possible contender.

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  • diapdiap Frets: 135
    Great album.

    I struggle to rank albums by Pink Floyd but if I had to chose The Final Cut would be up there. Can't disagree with what ICBM has said, apart from Two Suns In The Sunset still hits hard for me.

    I also happen to like most of Waters solo stuff too though.
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  • PhiltrePhiltre Frets: 4164
    The Final Beer Gut, more like.
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  • SidNewtonSidNewton Frets: 660
    Nope but I don't particularly like The Wall either, with the exception of a few songs.
    On the other hand I quite like A Momentary Lapse Of Reason..........
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  • KilgoreKilgore Frets: 8599
    Loved it in my late teens bought it on vinyl. (Particularly Gunners Dream, Southampton Dock, Post War Dream.)

    I didn't listen to it for years, then bought it on CD in the late 90's. I couldn't get through it once. I found it oppressive and miserable.

     I finally listened to it again about a year ago. I can now appreciate it once more without it making me feel completely miserable. 
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  • Really can’t get into this one at all. 
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  • BrizeBrize Frets: 5619
    I like it. It's obviously not a patch on its predecessors, but there's enough to keep me interested and it's better than all of the post-Waters stuff. Not Now John is a great track.  
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  • I do like it a lot.
    It was one of my early PF purchases and played it an awful lot when I was in the Army. 
    Never really compared it to their other work, just put it on and listened. 

    Roger Walters Radio Kaos is one of my all time fave albums. Had that as a kid and played it to death. 
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 71959
    FastEddie said:

    Roger Walters Radio Kaos is one of my all time fave albums.
    Odd how we all hear things so differently. I'm a big Waters fan as you probably know, but that's the one I can't really get into. I don't dislike it, it's just that (for me) all the others are better.

    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

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  • It's not my favourite Floyd album but I do love bits of it. And in terms of Roger solo stuff I love Amused to Death. 

    Here's a lovely cover of The Final Cut by Draconian's Hekie Langhans.



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  • Danny1969Danny1969 Frets: 10357
    @Grumpyrocker ; that's a brilliant version, the way she sings the solo just shows how melodic that solo is as well. 
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  • horsehorse Frets: 1563
    I like it - my dad used to play it in the car when I was a youngster. I've never been that bothered about The Wall though for some reason.
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  • RabsRabs Frets: 2602
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    Yes I am a big fan of that album too..  Pretty much agree with @ICBM ..  Always loved the music on it more than the lyrics and the guitar and sax solos are some of my favourites.

    Oddly enough i dont listen to The Wall much at all but always find myself going back for The Final Cut.. Its like an old friend.

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  • TheMarlinTheMarlin Frets: 7744
    I still listen to DSOTM at least once a fortnight. 
    The others, less so...
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  • I liked this more than The wall.  It seemed more immediate and relevant to the period I listening to it mid-late 80s, when some of the characters named still had relevance. I was lent a copy by my boss at the time and was listening to it on tape as I cycled home from work through a notoriously rough housing estate just as the sound of the rocket flying overhead buzzed through my head.  I genuinely thought I was being shot at (it was a very rough estate).

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