Phil Spector

Dodge

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55697979

Jimbro66

An iconic record producer - the famous ‘wall of sound’ and the Beatles Let It Be album being among his many musical achievements. Shame it was soured by a criminal conviction leading to imprisonment that he was never to leave.

scrumhalf

Whislt there is no denying his incredible talent it came at the cost of an ability to function as a normal human being.

sweepy

If you read contemporary reports from those who worked with him, he was a nasty piece of work all round 

ThorpyFX

sweepy said:

If you read contemporary reports from those who worked with him, he was a nasty piece of work all round 

convicted murderer..... he's not likely to be the nicest of chaps.

Hootsmon

FH

Hattigol

He's a convicted murderer. Think I'll save my RIP wishes for others a little more worthy. 

EricTheWeary

Reading a few things about him. Threatening people with a gun seems to have been an almost constant behaviour. 

Important as a producer but got very left behind I guess, which probably didn’t help his mental well being either. 

Seems like he was never getting out of prison alive and Covid has spread up that process.

HAL9000

Sorry Phil but good riddance.

richardhomer

Convicted murderer who was once a record producer dies....

UnclePsychosis

One of the all time great producers. By all accounts a pretty terrible human. 

Bod

Even Harold Shipman helped some patients.

guitartango

He made John Lennon look Sane

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_'n'_Roll_(John_Lennon_album)

"Unknown to Lennon, each night Spector would remove the master tapes from the studio, and move them to his house"

Fuckng Nutter

ICBM

I think I would cautiously say he was a very troubled man, rather than just purely nasty. Unquestionably one of the greatest record producers ever, just a deeply unpleasant person in many ways as well. I think you can remember him for both.

RIP Lana Clarkson.

scrumhalf

I read a biography of him a few years ago and it wasn't flattering. The only pages where he didn't come across as a shit were those that didn't mention him.

DesVegas

The Wall of Sound was a super idea

Danny1969

I remember that pic when he was seen with no wig at the appeal I think ..  startling 

Dodge

Interesting, but not surprising: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-55702855

Cirrus

I actually don't mind the headline that focussed on his career rather than crime. Murder's horrible obviously and he was clearly a pretty fucked up person, but I suspect for all of us here his actions and personality were very far removed from our own lives and experience beyond reading about it in the news 15 years ago. On the other hand, the music he produced has probably touched many lives in more tangible ways.

That said, I think the Wall of Sound gets more credit than it deserves - it's not like big ensembles didn't exist already, he just used them in a slightly different context. If he hadn't done it, others would have.

Hattigol

Cirrus said:

I actually don't mind the headline that focussed on his career rather than crime. Murder's horrible obviously and he was clearly a pretty fucked up person, but I suspect for all of us here his actions and personality were very far removed from our own lives and experience beyond reading about it in the news 15 years ago. On the other hand, the music he produced has probably touched many lives in more tangible ways.

That said, I think the Wall of Sound gets more credit than it deserves - it's not like big ensembles didn't exist already, he just used them in a slightly different context. If he hadn't done it, others would have.

I suspect you might view things a little differently if you were a member of the victim's family.

Cirrus

Yep, that's very true. But murders happen all the time, there's a reason the death of Spector in particular is in the news and being talked about at all, and that's his career. So it is important. That doesn't mean I don't empathise with the victims of a murder, I just don't think it really serves to get speculatively outraged on behalf of some people none of us in this thread know, and it's not like the headline is the sum total of the content of the article anyway.